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Mexican anger over US 'trespass'
BBC News ^ | 2/24/2007 | kik5150

Posted on 02/24/2007 5:18:16 PM PST by kik5150

Mexico's Congress has condemned what it says is a border violation by US workers building a controversial barrier between the two countries.

Legislators say workers and equipment building a section of the barrier have gone 10 metres (yards) into Mexico.

The alleged border violation comes ahead of a high-level meeting in the Canadian capital Ottawa.

US, Mexican and Canadian foreign ministers are to discuss border security and trade issues.

Mexican legislators said they had photographs and video, taken on Monday, of the workers and heavy-duty construction equipment that showed them about 10 metres inside Mexico near the border city of Agua Prieta and the town of Douglas, Arizona.

The Mexican Foreign Minister Patricia Espinosa said she had complained to the US authorities and that the men and equipment had been withdrawn.

Continental trade concerns

In a statement, the US Ambassador to Mexico Tony Garza said: "The US is sensitive to Mexican concerns... [and] has the deepest respect for the integrity of the sovereignty of Mexican soil".

He said US Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff had not been in the area of the alleged incursion and recent photographs of him welding a section of the fence had been taken in a different part of Arizona on the US side of the border.

The US says it is building 700 miles (1,125km) of fencing along its border with Mexico to stop illegal immigration.

Many Mexicans see the fence as offensive and say it will be ineffective and potentially cause more deaths in border crossings.

An estimated 1.2 million illegal immigrants were arrested in 2005 trying to cross into the US via the border states of Texas, New Mexico, Arizona and California.

About 11 million Mexicans are thought to live in the US, more than six million of them illegally.....


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: aliens; border; fence; mexico; mexicoborderfence
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To: thiscouldbemoreconfusing

I'll not debate the morality of owning another human being. If one wishes to view a human being as property, very well. That is their choice. I, personally, reject it. I further decline to enter unto a discussion whereupon sentient human beings are used as discussion points in a debate on economic theft.


41 posted on 02/25/2007 4:24:25 PM PST by Thumper1960 (Unleash the Dogs of War as a Minority, or perish as a party.)
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To: kik5150
I've got a better idea. Why doesn't Mexico build the wall?

That way, they can make sure it stays on the right side of the line.

If Mexico weren't such a loser of a country, wouldn't over 20 million of it's citizens want to stay home and live there instead of crawling over 50 miles of cactus to get out?

42 posted on 02/25/2007 4:45:00 PM PST by Gritty (What is going on is a sustained assault by Mexico on U.S. sovereignty - Mark Steyn)
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To: kik5150

"In a statement, the US Ambassador to Mexico Tony Garza said: "The US is sensitive to Mexican concerns... [and] has the deepest respect for the integrity of the sovereignty of Mexican soil".

Oh dear Lord, this is beyond believable.


43 posted on 02/25/2007 4:51:12 PM PST by Mila (i)
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To: kik5150

Um...we turn a blind eye to 10 million of your poorest rejects trespassing here every year...and you bitch a fit if some American's foot slips over the border?


44 posted on 02/25/2007 4:52:36 PM PST by RockinRight (When Chuck Norris goes to bed at night, he checks under the bed for Jack Bauer.)
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To: Thumper1960
Thumper, you did not read what I wrote, you are jumping to an ilogicval conclussion. Let's start again.

The Civil War forged a common nation.

No, what the civil war did was destroy states rights and impose the largest eminent domain scandal the country has yet to see. 2 billion dollars worth of privately help property was taken and freed with no compensation for the owners.

Regardless of how you and I feel about slavery today, the Union took, from Southern owners, over 2 billion dollars, in 1860 dollars, worth of slaves with no compensation whatsoever.

No, my friend, the civil war did not forge one country, the North simply imposed a mightier force to subdue a movement to regain freedom and maintain states rights.

My Point, Thumper, was that the Civil War did not forge a nation, it destroyed States Rights, and opened the door for eminent domain takings that are becoming more and more wrong.

45 posted on 02/25/2007 7:46:54 PM PST by thiscouldbemoreconfusing
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To: thiscouldbemoreconfusing
If you make the point that land was seized, I can accept the argument. My point of response is "slaves", human beings, cannot be considered "property" by any morally rooted individual. To equate human beings with the term property is offensive, and has been for a very, very long time.

It has been said that prior to the Civil War, or the War Between the States, most people saw themselves as Virginians or Ohioans or New Yorkers first, Americans second. In the sense that post Civil War people began to refer more to national identity than regional identity then the war did help forge a more cohesive nation.

One of the consequences of the war was the strengthening of central government. That is the tragedy of the war. I am familiar with the argument that the war was not originally intended to free slaves and that Lincoln could not have given a tinkers dam about them, prior to the ED. Had the South not sown its own seeds of destruction by failing to develop an industrial base that could have competed with the North, things might be much different today. Perhaps a political settlement might have been reached that would have been beneficial to both sides.

46 posted on 02/25/2007 8:05:19 PM PST by Thumper1960 (Unleash the Dogs of War as a Minority, or perish as a party.)
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