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To: GMMAC
Fascinating, and thanks for posting.

As a faithful Catholic, I have been gagging on altar girls, lectresses and Eucharistic minstrels for years. Not to mention sappy music. Permission for all of these innovations was demanded of the Vatican virtually at gunpoint by American bishops, for reasons that escape me. Perhaps because many vocal bishops, without necessarily understanding what they're doing, hate and fear families headed by men.

Parishes that emphasize these feminized practices tend to be very lightly attended by teenage boys, I notice. If you lose the men, you lose the culture.

4 posted on 02/24/2007 4:14:51 PM PST by SamuraiScot
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To: SamuraiScot

A Church is similar to a household in many respects. My first father-in-law was not a great man in the world's eyes, but he was a family man, a sober man, a leader of his household while remaining the servant of his family. All of the great men I've known personally in my 60 plus years have been just that kind of great. Such men build character in the children around them and make a shelter for flourishing of the women they love and cherish. When such men show with their actions of worship that they revere and fear their Creator, children learn the way that they should go.


10 posted on 02/24/2007 4:37:17 PM PST by MHGinTN (If you've had life support. Promote life support for others.)
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To: SamuraiScot
"As a faithful Catholic, I have been gagging on altar girls, lectresses ..."

As one of your - hopefully faithful - co-religionists, I don't have a problem with Altar girls or women reading the lessons but agree completely with you otherwise.

I'd add, I have a real 'thing' with Cantors or either gender:
The better they are, the more they usurp the proper role of the laity &, the worse they are, .... they're just that much more awful!
13 posted on 02/24/2007 5:05:32 PM PST by GMMAC (Discover Canada governed by Conservatives: www.CanadianAlly.com)
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To: SamuraiScot
Permission for all of these innovations was demanded of the Vatican virtually at gunpoint by American bishops, for reasons that escape me.

The more you learn about who those bishops are (or were), the easier it is to understand.

21 posted on 02/25/2007 1:12:06 PM PST by Jim Noble
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To: SamuraiScot
I am a woman who is a layreader at a rather traditional Anglican church. Why do you have a problem with women reading the lessons?

This does not mean I approve of the "feminization" of our society. As I mentioned in a post in another thread, the matriarchy is responsible for the increase in teen pregnancy, fatherless gang members run amok and the welfare state. I am perfectly content to live in a patriarchy, but I don't see anything wrong with women reading from Scripture.

24 posted on 02/25/2007 2:09:08 PM PST by kellynch ("Our only freedom is the freedom to discipline ourselves." -- Bernard Baruch)
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To: SamuraiScot
Perhaps because many vocal bishops, without necessarily understanding what they're doing, hate and fear families headed by men.

Bullseye.

40 posted on 02/28/2007 10:03:40 AM PST by polymuser (There is one war and one enemy.)
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