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To: nopardons


President has a habit of surrounding himself with people he knows well and trusts. He is NOT going to "dump Cheney" and try to install Hunter, to help make him better known.
***You have a crystal ball? Where does it say, "dump Cheney" as if you're quoting us? Or is it that you mean 'dump Cheney' as in so much baggage? How many heart attacks has the VP had? And your certainty of knowing that he won't have another one soon is based upon... the clarity of your perceptions? You can't even read posts without going off into the weeds.


To even bring this idea up, shows desperation on your and others' part and little understanding of politics, government, and President Bush.
***Shows desperation, that's great. Desperation means a lack of hope, and I have tremendous hope that grows every day as I see Hunter gaining ground. It wasn't an idea borne out of desperation, it was one borne out of showing people that anything could happen (Cheney could have a heart attack tomorrow) and overnight, Hunter has Name recognition. I never heard of Harriet Miers before Bush floated her name, as an example. Frankly, I don't care what you think about how much understanding I have of politics, but thanks for your concern -- it's always fun to have you around.


And all VEEP replacements must be passed by Congress.
***You obviously haven't read up on my idea. Par for the course with you. But I suppose I should answer your post quickly because who knows how long you'll be around, JimRob will probably ban you within the next few days for your lies. Anyways, it doesn't matter if Hunter passes the congressional ratification process. That's the beauty of the plan. All the rancor would give him name recognition, regardless of whether he wins the spot or not. Example: Harriet Miers can do a lot more now with her name recognition than she could before, and she didn't even get ratified.

With both Houses under Dem control, the Dems chaffing at the bit to shut down our actions in Iraq and to hamstring the president, not only would they NOT even bother doing anything about such a nomination; they'd stick it on a back burner and forget it.
***They would be neglecting their constitutional duty and I'm sure Hunter and Bush would be holding daily press conferences pointing that out. End result: Name Recognition for Hunter, chastised congress.

If this is the best that you can come up with, you need to do better.
***Of course it isn't the best, it's just one of several ideas quickly thrown together. It's one that has legs because it doesn't cost anything, gives Bush the legacy he lacks, refocuses the party, and gives that team player Cheney a fantastic chance at unselfishly taking one for the team that he'd be remembered for.


542 posted on 02/23/2007 10:26:21 PM PST by Kevmo (The first labor of Huntercles: Defeating the 3-headed RINO)
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To: Kevmo
Are you capable of civil debate, without personal attacks?

I have been remarkably civil to you, but obviously not agree with you and pointing out the fallacy of your post, was too much for you.

Nowhere did you mention Cheney's health and since you are accusing me of not taking the VEEP's previous heart problems into consideration, let me point out to YOU, that Cheney's health is strictly monitored, he hasn't had any heat attacks in years, and therefore, your statement re replacing Cheney with Hunter implies that President Bush should DUMP a loyal and trusted friend and ally, so that the guy YOU like can get some exposure. This is the thinking and writing, of someone who neither knows nor understand the workings of politics, government, nor President Bush!

You assume, with that proposition, that all the president, any president, has to do, is to just name someone and presto, that person gets the position. That is NOT true.

If I had written something other than "desperation" ( which really IS what you have, even though you deny it ), you would have complained about that word as well.

There is absolutely no reason for you or anyone else to believe that President Bush would choose Hunter to replace an ill or dead Dick Cheney; NONE!

First of all, should, GOD forefend, Cheney become ill, he WILL get the very BEST of care and there would be NO reason to replace him immediately.

Secondly, President Bush is 1)not close friends with Hunter 2) none of you can FORCE the president to pick "your guy" 3) any nominee would have to be passed on by Congress and right now, they would NOT even do anything about it...stringing such a nominee out until the next election!

Why?

BECAUSE NANCY PELOSI WOULD BE NEXT IN LINE!

That I have to explain any/all of these things to you, is appalling! Why don't you know any of it?

Oh, so you and Jim now hold private meetings about who to ban, do you? Or has Jim told you, personally that he is going to ban me in a couple of days? Or is this a combination of wishful thinking and LYING, on your part?

I don't lie! And any "hope" anyone here has in catching me is a "lie", will not come to fruition.

No, there wouldn't be any daily press conferences. The Congress would just ignore it all and since this is just some fanciful, factless, day dream of yours, the least your can do, the next time you decide to dream up some way to get Hunter "out there", the least you could do, is to make it plausible.

564 posted on 02/23/2007 10:48:16 PM PST by nopardons
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