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But I draw the line when folks undertake to try and give our country's leadership to a guy who thinks racist eugenicist Margaret Sanger's "work" is "respectable," who tries to sue gun manufacturers out of business, who defies the law in defense of hundreds of thousands of illegal foreign nationals who have invaded NYC, who has been in bed with the radical gay activists for years, and who will, if nominated, lay waste to the Reagan GOP electoral coalition.

Now, now, Ivan is entitled to his opinion, fair is fair. Even though I have little use for Rudy as a candidate and a low opinion of his prospects for POTUS, lively debate keeps this place from becoming the fugue state nuthouse you see on less conservative sites.

This is a forum for conservatives, but I am reminded daily that conservatism appears to be relative within a limited geographical contest, anyway.

I must note that the Right to keep and bear arms in England appears to have been pretty much laid to waste, and may not be an 'issue' there like here. You are free to defend yourself as long as you can use your WWII SAS training and your bare hands.

I have no real knowledge of the abortion issue there, admittedly.

However, it does occur to me that Hillary has been putting herself in a position to 'blue dog' Rudy and run to the right of him on the issues.

If that isn't a wake-up call for Rudy supporters, the nap will continue.