Posted on 02/23/2007 2:58:35 PM PST by Jim Robinson
Bill Simon is a champ! I really wanted to see him as our candidate. When he quit it took fire from the belly of the recall, which, btw, I wasn't in favor of, knowing it would screw up our primary process. Saying Bill Simon in my quote was a brain fart. That said I'll correct my quote...
Darryl and a bunch of pissed off conservatives got the recall enacted. The recall brought us Arnie and the CAGOP will be screwed up for years to come.
I did support Arnie against Tom Mc in the recall, as I knew many who were turning out because of Arnie's celebrity, and it was going to be either Arnie or the fat mexican communist. During the last election I voted for Arnie, but sure as heck would have preferred someone else. Too bad that the recall screwed up the primary, ain't it? Whoops, I shouldn't ask you, you'd do it again if you could get Arnie replaced with another filthy socialist.
You're mistaken, or lying, when you say I consistently support Arnie. The truth of the matter is I consistently protest the fringe whackjobs who cost us elections. Like you.
I'm supporting Hunter, you goofball, shaddup.
Here is the deal -- this site is not representative of John Q Public in voting -- not even close.
In 2000 -- Keyes was the most supported originally followed by Buchanan.
There are also an unusually large number of 3rd Party voters. A lot of voters or voters that threatened to stay home are not Republican because over the years they have posted they have left the Republican Party. Those of us broken glass Republicans will never threaten to stay home and not vote and we will vote for the candidate that we believe has the best chance to win in the general.
A lot of Freepers don't understand that standing on principle over reality sometimes can cost this Nation dearly, and we are seeing it play out now in Congress. To allow any one issue to keep someone from voting or throwing a temper tantrum and voting for a Dem that says one thing and does another is dumb.
That 2006 lesson won't be forgotten by long time activists like me and why I am less than inclined to listen to a group of people that have been bashing Republican office holders for as long as I can remember on here.
I am not whining but it sure is fun to make fun of those that run to a mod if they don't get their way.
If Rudy still had the "D" after his name (McGovern Democrat) how would all the Rudy threads and boosters be treated here?
When Rudy ran for Mayor the 2nd time he did everything but tell the GOP to eat sh*t and die. He disavowed any connection to himself being a Reagan Republican. Rudy was ENDORSED by the LIBERAL Party and Rudy endorsed LIBERAL Democrats time and time again.
Now the last I checked the FR Homepage says this is a conservative website - to advance conservatives ideals. It doesn't say 'moderates', and definitely NOT Liberals.
So again ... if Rudy didn't have that magic 'R', what would be occurring here? The same as if Pro Hillary, pro John Kerry, or any other pro LIBERAL thread was posted.
The above expresses the opinion of MYSELF and is not paid for by any CONSERVATIVE politician, or political party - now living or dead. /s
(Is James Brown buried yet?)
Thanks wireman.
I enjoy the verbal jousting that happens on FR.
Of course, you've got to be able to dish it out, as well as take it.
I can, but it seems some have thin skins and no sense of humor (sometimes, no sense, period!).
You supported Arnold all the way chump, apologizing for his every action with the excuse that it could be worse.
Saying Bill Simon in my quote was a brain fart. That said I'll correct my quote...
Your sloppiness with facts is routine, because you don't supply them, much less research sources.
I did support Arnie against Tom Mc in the recall, as I knew many who were turning out because of Arnie's celebrity, and it was going to be either Arnie or the fat mexican communist.
Horse feces. That claim has been debunked so many times it is astonishing you have the brass to go on with it, but then as I said, you don't care about facts with sources.
During the last election I voted for Arnie, but sure as heck would have preferred someone else.
You defended Arnold as he instituted policies to the left of his predecessor. You defended the GOP and Arnold when they effectively canceled the gubernatorial primary. You defended Arnold even after he cut off support to the down-ticket Republican candidates.
Too bad that the recall screwed up the primary, ain't it?
The recall had NOTHING to do with a primary that came three years later, but don't let facts bother you. For the record, again, I voted for McClintock and against the recall.
Whoops, I shouldn't ask you, you'd do it again if you could get Arnie replaced with another filthy socialist.
Comments like this are why I ping JimRob.
You're mistaken, or lying, when you say I consistently support Arnie. The truth of the matter is I consistently protest the fringe whackjobs who cost us elections. Like you.
No, you attack ANYONE who protests the socialist policies Arnold has effected. That's support turkey, and it's people like you who enable Arnold's relentless drive to the left.
You, Karaoke, are a liar. I don't attack anyone, I attack the fifth columnists, in your case part of the California ilk herd. As a self-appointed environmentalist, engineer, resident genius you are a senior member of the herd. Your constant emphasis is on purity and intolerance. I contend its because you desire republican defeat and socialist supremacy. Where does that lead us; purity, intolerance, socialist supremacy, hmmm?
LOL
ps - Go Duncan Hunter!
Economists, as a group, are ignorant of socialized risk.
Rudy is one of the candidates I like. And a president does not have the authority to unilaterally impose a police state.
The hell he doesn't. I suggest you read USC Title 10, Section 333:
(2) opposes or obstructs the execution of the laws of the United States or impedes the course of justice under those laws.
The language of this section is so broad and places so much interpretive discretion in the hands of the President, that to allow a naked gun-grabber to hold that post with the excuse of terrorism is totally unacceptable.
Got it?
No. I am saying have clarity of the political climate before embarking on courses of action. If the political marketplace is buying what you are selling, fine. If they are not, people should have a grasp of that. Right now (and this could change quickly, of course), the public is buying what the dems are selling and not what the GOP is selling.
I am saying that goals and expectations should reflect political realities.
It wasn't for nothing that the Democrats worked so hard and spent so much money to knock those two out. To be honest, however, I never really saw either of them as particularly strong presidential material.
I agree. the dems knocked them out because they were perceived as vulnerable (especially Santorum) and they marketed their candidates in those races very well. I never bought into the Allen as GOP 2008 nominee thing, either.
Care to explain to me how a Northeast liberal Yankee gun-grabber is going to win all those red states in the south? I'm genuinely curious to hear your take on it.
Sure. Most voters know that elections aren't between the named candidate and some imaginary, perfect candidate. People tend to vote for who they perceive is the best of the choices offered. The gun grabbing rip on Rudy is overstated and most people know it. Rudy polls well everywhere, even the South, and people know where he stands. The idea that people don't know him well is reassuring to his detractors but doesn't have much strength. He has been on the national political scene especially since late 2001, and has been in strong demand among GOP candidates everywhere for his help in campaigning.
Yes, even in the South.
Indeed, Rudy has campaigned for 100s of GOPers around the nation and has been a great advocate for the president for many years. Indeed, he does a better job explaining the admin's policies than Dubya himself. He has been loyal to the GOP throughout this century, and the thanks he gets is petulant foot stomping by purists who hurl overstatements (and complete lies) in his direction. I've seen him routinely called an 'abortionist,' for example, which is someone who performs abortions. That just isn't true, but it doesn't stop some people from using the word to describe him.
Then again, maybe many Freepers just don't understand what the word means.
I'll raise my hand before I post next time.
No one (at least on the Rudy side) is claiming "persecution." But there is a large segment of FReepers that would just as soon see us gone.
That's not playing the victim. That's verifiable.
How about you tell the whole truth for once.
Rudy also believes that Ruth Bader Ginsburg fits the mold of strict constructionist. Is she a strict constructionist conservative in your eyes?
Rudy also said in an interview on H&C (before he decided to run for president and his advisers started remolding him into someone that would be palatable to Americans too lazy to look up his real record) "that from the founding of the country, presidents appoint judges that agree with their philosophy."
Guiliani's philosophy has always been that of a gun grabbing, pro abort, queer special rights advocating, illegal alien loving, speech stifling liberal.
So, with Rudy's own words and his history showing you what he would do if elected, do you still want to claim that Rudy will appoint conservative judges?
He said Ginsburg was qualified for the Supreme Court because she was very intelligent and a good lawyer. He never said one thing about agreeing with Ginsburg's judicial philosophy. You anti-Rudy people love to take things out of context. Do you consider Ted Olsen a liar because I take him at his word.
It means that y'all are getting about 2,000 out of every 200,000 people or so...
Rudy may be "losing badly" on FR. But as the professionals say. That's the outlier.
As much as many would like to think otherwise, FreeRepublic is not representative of the general voting public. It's not even representative of the Republican Party as a whole.
My post is merely reflective of the numbers listed on the front page.
Oh yes you will. It's in your nature. You can't help being nasty when someone disagrees with you.
Your candidate Rudy, carries more baggage than Zaza Gabor does on a round the world cruise.
That's not a distortion, but your previou comment I replied to is. FR is a gathering of more rightwing conservatives, so I find it odd someone so liberal as rudy gets any support here, because he hardly represents conservative ideals, and those who do support him here are sellouts to the left, imo.
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