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Geffen has a point about the Clintons
LA Times ^ | February 23, 2007 | EDITORIALS

Posted on 02/23/2007 12:43:55 PM PST by Cincinna

THERE ARE TWO THINGS to be said about the first major intramural spat of the 2008 Democratic primary season. The first is that David Geffen has a point (and we're not saying that just because there is a remote chance that we might work for him someday). The second is that if California moves up its primary, presidential candidates visiting here will soon have to pander to more than just Hollywood moguls.

Geffen, once among Bill and Hillary Rodham Clinton's biggest financial backers, threw Hollywood's first mega-fundraiser of the election cycle on Tuesday — for Barack Obama. His criticism of Hillary Clinton, reported Wednesday by New York Times columnist Maureen Dowd, sparked an amusingly overwrought exchange between the Clinton and Obama camps.

Geffen was on to something with his passing mention of the fact that Obama is not from "the Bush royal family" or the "Clinton royal family." Regardless of what you think of Bill Clinton's presidency, or his wife's talent, the dynastic aspect of Hillary Clinton's candidacy is an issue that will increasingly come to occupy center stage in this campaign. Is the country prepared to be governed, potentially, for 28 years by two families who alternate turns in the White House?

The Clinton campaign appears unwilling to acknowledge this concern.

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: arkansasgrifters; clinton; defeatocrats; democrats; georgewbush; hillaryclinton; hillaryherhino; hollyweird; shrillery
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To: Cincinna

It's a given that if the Clintons' lips are moving they're lying. Has it really taken the MSM almost twenty years to catch on to this?


21 posted on 02/23/2007 1:22:15 PM PST by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: Cincinna

bttt


22 posted on 02/23/2007 1:35:10 PM PST by Pagey (Horrible Hillary Clinton is Bad For America, Bad For Business and Bad For MY Stomach!)
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To: street_lawyer

All this publicity for Hillary and her Hino may fall into the "I don't care what they say about me as long as they spell my name right" category.

How do we deal with the fact that these horrible dangerous people who want to take over our country are Teflon?


23 posted on 02/23/2007 1:38:52 PM PST by Cincinna (HILLARY & HER HINO "We are going to take things away from you for the Common Good")
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To: Cincinna
it is not that they are Teflon. But you can put super glue on something and it will not stick to you unless you touch it,and if you are told that it is a precious substance that must not be touched, and that it is for your benefit that it is there, then to you, it becomes something that it is not. Should I be more prosaic? I hope I conveyed to you that I believe that the American people who are not Freepers can be convinced of anything as long as it sounds plausable.
24 posted on 02/23/2007 1:44:08 PM PST by street_lawyer (Conservative Defender of the Faith)
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To: Cincinna
it is not that they are Teflon. But you can put super glue on something and it will not stick to you unless you touch it,and if you are told that it is a precious substance that must not be touched, and that it is for your benefit that it is there, then to you, it becomes something that it is not. Should I be more prosaic? I hope I conveyed to you that I believe that the American people who are not Freepers can be convinced of anything as long as it sounds plausible.
25 posted on 02/23/2007 1:44:17 PM PST by street_lawyer (Conservative Defender of the Faith)
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To: Cincinna

"Geffen has a point about the Clintons" ... of course he does, and that's why the clinton media sycophancy and her lowness's goon squad lead by Car vile are out in force immediately to practice the politics of personal destruction while she claims she want to avoid that particular methodology. You would think the nation would be tired to the bone of clinton triangulation machine and the continuous manipulation of truth and open spewing of lies.


26 posted on 02/23/2007 1:55:53 PM PST by MHGinTN (If you've had life support. Promote life support for others.)
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To: D-Chivas

Hey newbie, are you getting paid for this stealth rodhamster wheeling or are you working for free? Geffen's request because he believed Peltier was framed has nothing to do with hillary and bill being continuous liars or that American doesn't want a dynastic transfer of power.


27 posted on 02/23/2007 1:59:58 PM PST by MHGinTN (If you've had life support. Promote life support for others.)
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To: fish hawk

She always brings up her patriotism when she feels guilty about it. No one qustions it, because it doesn't exist to be discussed. Hell, just the other day I asked Hugo Chavez about his snowmobile. /S


28 posted on 02/23/2007 2:06:10 PM PST by BerryDingle
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To: Cincinna

Just remember when you read this that Geffin is one of the 3 serious bidders to buy the LA Times. Nothing like sucking up to a potential new owner.


29 posted on 02/23/2007 3:39:00 PM PST by airedale ( XZ)
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To: MHGinTN
Hey newbie, are you getting paid for this stealth rodhamster wheeling or are you working for free? Geffen's request because he believed Peltier was framed has nothing to do with hillary and bill being continuous liars or that American doesn't want a dynastic transfer of power.

Newbie? I've been posting here for over a year.

I'm as anti-Hitlery as anybody else on here. I just don't think it matters that Geffen is being catty about the Clintoons because he thought he could buy a Pardon for a FBI killer. We already know that the Clintons are liars who will sell out America to North Korea, Iran, China, and others. What's new? Will Geffen complaining change a Hitlery supporter one iota? Even so, Hussein-Obama is just as disgusting of potential nominee.

30 posted on 02/23/2007 3:44:15 PM PST by D-Chivas
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To: D-Chivas
Hmm, I misread your 'since' date ... 2006-01-31 ,,, tired eyes saw 2007-01-31

Sorry about that ... but don't help the clinton goons trash a critic.

31 posted on 02/23/2007 3:49:34 PM PST by MHGinTN (If you've had life support. Promote life support for others.)
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To: D-Chivas

I agree, this was just his hissy fit over his favorite domestic terrorist not getting released so he can make a movie about it.


32 posted on 02/23/2007 4:05:50 PM PST by hunter112
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To: MHGinTN
Sorry about that ... but don't help the clinton goons trash a critic.

The clinton goons don't give a flying crap what conservatives think about her and Bubba. David Geffen may currently be a useful idiot, but he's still an idiot. Should Barry O get the nomination, he'll surely prove that in public.

33 posted on 02/23/2007 4:09:24 PM PST by hunter112
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To: Cincinna; All
Excellent points.

David Geffen's comments to Maureen Dowd were devastating--and hillary clinton took the bait--not because of any reference to the husband's 'personal life,' but because they were the opening salvo, the imprimatur, to expose the following fatal clinton defects that would end the clinton candidacy.


  1. the clintons' documented abuse of power 4 (redacted via clinton abuse of power!)




  2. the clintons' terrorism failure 3.




  3. the clintons' 1 rape of Juanita Broaddrick 2


A WARNING FOR DAVID GEFFEN: Limit your attack to the husband's 'personal life' as opposed to the rape, the terrorism failure and the abuses of power (see above), and hillary clinton will simply play her usual default position... the victim... and get the nomination. (HEAR SUSAN ESTRICH: hillary plays 'the victim' for votes)

 
 

December 7, 1941+64

AN OPEN LETTER TO TIM ROBBINS, DAVID GEFFEN, CHRIS MATTHEWS, MAUREEN DOWD + JEANINE PIRRO

RE: a not-so-modest proposal concerning hillary clinton



Dear Concerned Americans,

hillary clinton's revisionist tome notwithstanding, 'living history' begets a certain symmetry. It is in that light that I make this not-so-modest proposal on this day, exactly 64 years after the attack on Pearl Harbor.

The context of our concern today--regardless of political affiliation--is Iraq and The War on Terror, but the larger fear is that our democracy may not survive.

We have the requisite machines, power and know-how to defeat the enemy in Iraq and elsewhere, but do we have the will?

In particular, do we have the will to identify and defeat the enemy in our midst?

Answerable to no one, heir apparent in her own mind, self-serving in the extreme, hillary clinton incarnates this insidious new threat to our survival.

What we decide to do about missus clinton will tell us much about what awaits us in these perilous new times.

COMPLETE LETTER

December 7, 1941+64
AN OPEN LETTER TO TIM ROBBINS, DAVID GEFFEN, CHRIS MATTHEWS, MAUREEN DOWD + JEANINE PIRRO
RE: a not-so-modest proposal concerning hillary clinton
Mia T

COPYRIGHT MIA T 2005, 2007

read more:
WHY THE GEFFEN IMBROGLIO SIGNALS CLINTON'S END
'HILLARY'S STRATEGY--NOBODY GETS TO CRITICIZE HER' -- CHRIS MATTHEWS
with a WARNING FOR DAVID GEFFEN
 

34 posted on 02/23/2007 5:36:04 PM PST by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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To: Cincinna

This whole episodes reveals the morons that support Democrats at the highest levels.


35 posted on 02/24/2007 7:02:18 AM PST by Democratshavenobrains
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