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PARENT GROUPS ASK MARYLAND TO STOP NEW SEX ED LESSONS
Parents and Friends of ExGays and Gays ^
| 2/23/07
| PFOX
Posted on 02/23/2007 12:38:55 PM PST by dcnd9
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posted on
02/23/2007 12:38:58 PM PST
by
dcnd9
To: dcnd9
Monkey County is a dreadful place. I think it's a colony of Massachusetts.
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posted on
02/23/2007 12:40:39 PM PST
by
RexBeach
To: dcnd9
Despite repeated appearances by former homosexuals and a former transgender before the BOE, the Board voted to exclude ex-gays from the lesson plans
Tough luck. I guess they don't buy your claims.
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posted on
02/23/2007 12:42:47 PM PST
by
LtdGovt
("Where government moves in, community retreats and civil society disintegrates" -Janice Rogers Brown)
To: dcnd9
Why do the lesson plans censor ex-gays when every other sexual orientation is discussed and supported?
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Ummm, wouldn't an ex-gay be heterosexual? I believe heterosexuality is discussed.
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posted on
02/23/2007 12:44:48 PM PST
by
dmz
To: dcnd9
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posted on
02/23/2007 12:46:12 PM PST
by
dcnd9
To: dmz
WE ARE ALL HETERO AT BIRTH..... HOMO BY DESIRE.
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posted on
02/23/2007 12:47:17 PM PST
by
dcnd9
To: LtdGovt
They can become ex gays.
They simply dont want kids to realize its a CHOICE and that you are not "born that way"
If its a choice, a lifestyle, theres no need to teach it to kids.
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posted on
02/23/2007 12:51:23 PM PST
by
OMalley
(Just say NO to Rudy "Tootsie" Giuliani-GO Duncan Hunter 08:))
To: dcnd9
I have Ethnic Identity Disorder and demand to go to school in Black Face, change my name to SleepandEat and use the Colored Only Bath Room. I'll have to come up with a word to condemn those who would be against it.
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posted on
02/23/2007 12:52:01 PM PST
by
massgopguy
(I owe everything to George Bailey)
To: dcnd9
WE ARE ALL HETERO AT BIRTH..... HOMO BY DESIRE.
Speak for yourself, please. You don't need to claim that 6 billion other people have homosexual desires.
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posted on
02/23/2007 12:54:11 PM PST
by
LtdGovt
("Where government moves in, community retreats and civil society disintegrates" -Janice Rogers Brown)
To: OMalley
They can become ex gays.
That, you don't know. You have some people who claim they have changed their orientation, but you don't really have anything but their word for it. I remain sceptical of such claims.
They simply dont want kids to realize its a CHOICE and that you are not "born that way"
It probably is a combination of genetics and enviroment.
If its a choice, a lifestyle, theres no need to teach it to kids.
There is no need whatsoever to teach it to kids, whether it is a lifestyle, inborn or whatever.
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posted on
02/23/2007 12:56:52 PM PST
by
LtdGovt
("Where government moves in, community retreats and civil society disintegrates" -Janice Rogers Brown)
To: dcnd9
Leftists just hate the vicious inflexibility of facts. Hence, they typically don't spend much time in the same room with them.
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posted on
02/23/2007 12:59:02 PM PST
by
TChris
(The Democrat Party: A sewer into which is emptied treason, inhumanity and barbarism - O. Morton)
To: LtdGovt
That, you don't know. You have some people who claim they have changed their orientation, but you don't really have anything but their word for it. I remain sceptical of such claims. And what do you have, except for their "word for it", to prove they ever were "gay"?
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posted on
02/23/2007 1:00:10 PM PST
by
TChris
(The Democrat Party: A sewer into which is emptied treason, inhumanity and barbarism - O. Morton)
To: dcnd9
The teachers are just softening up the kids so they can have sex with them.
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posted on
02/23/2007 1:02:37 PM PST
by
donna
(NMMFF! - No more moral free fall!)
To: dcnd9
"promotes cross-dressers, homosexuals, transgenders, bisexuals, the intersexed, and other non-heterosexuals."
I think the standard pc list of deviants gets longer every month.
It used to just be Gay, then Gay/Lesbian, then LGBT (or whatever).
What are we up to now lets see LGBTCnHi
It must suck to be a PC reporter to try and keep up with new deviancys.
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posted on
02/23/2007 1:11:19 PM PST
by
dman4384
To: LtdGovt
Well I do have an ex homosexual in my family so I do know a little more than the average joe.
The program they went thru had a 98% success rate.
Now if you are born that way, you cant change it, no more than i could change the color of my skin.
Another thing that the family discoverd thru the program (and true of this family member)is that most homosexuals have sexual abuse in thier past, which distorts thier view of normal sexual relationships.
I also have a sister, whose majority of friend are gay men. some will tell you they thought they were gay from very early on, but most will say that it was curiousity and that from the first time they were hooked.
My biggest issue is that If we accept that they are born that way it becomes a very slippery slope (which is part of the homosexual agenda) btw.
Pedophiles claim they are attracted to children. you can give them drugs, punish them with jail time, castorate them etc and STILL they offend. do we want to say they are born that way too? that they cant help it?
Granted what gays do in the privacy of thier bedrooms isnt comparable to molesting children, but you cannot take one and say its normal and not the other-the argument will be (and is) the same.
Think im being silly. read up on on the issue. there are several psychologists already arguing that pediophilia isnt a disorder. that the only thing that causes damage to the children is us, as a society telling them what happened to them is bad.
I for one dont care what ppl do in thier bedrooms. but DO NOT bring it into my schools etc and tell me they are born that way and therefore should be considered normal.
Once we all drink that koolade the slippery slope will be so icy we will never beable to crawl back up.
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posted on
02/23/2007 1:16:37 PM PST
by
OMalley
(Just say NO to Rudy "Tootsie" Giuliani-GO Duncan Hunter 08:))
To: TChris
And what do you have, except for their "word for it", to prove they ever were "gay"?
It's called logic. If you had thought about this question, you would have figured out the answer. Let's look at the question: you're asking how we know that homosexuals are actually romantically attracted to members of the same-sex. Well, what reason would they have to form relations with members of the same sex, except for the fact that they're attracted to them? Thus, I conclude that they probably are what they claim to be. On the other hand, if you look at the people who say they are formerly queer. What reason could they have for forming relations with members of the opposite sex? Why did they 'change'? I assume that religious and societal concerns matter greatly, since religion plays a very large role in most of these 'conversion therapies'. Thus, I conclude that their attractions probably haven't changed at all, but that their behavior has. I wouldn't want my daughter to marry one of those people, people who imagine her to be a man. Not in one hundred years.
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posted on
02/23/2007 1:19:07 PM PST
by
LtdGovt
("Where government moves in, community retreats and civil society disintegrates" -Janice Rogers Brown)
To: OMalley
Well I do have an ex homosexual in my family so I do know a little more than the average joe.
Personal experience is not an adequate substitute for scientific knowledge.
Now if you are born that way, you cant change it, no more than i could change the color of my skin.
The problem is that you can't look inside a person's head. You can't see whether the person's attractions have changed or not, you can only observe the person's behavior. And behavior is tricky, you could probably live with a man and pass off as gay, even though you are still attracted to women.
Pedophiles claim they are attracted to children. you can give them drugs, punish them with jail time, castorate them etc and STILL they offend. do we want to say they are born that way too? that they cant help it?
I'm not sure if they can help it. But I don't believe in the naturalistic fallacy, that everything that is inborn is necessarily good. People sometimes have violent tendencies that they get genetically. That's why we need to lock pedophiles up for the rest of their lives, tattoo it on their forehead and put them between more respectable criminals like murderes and robbers. I'm sure they will be taken care of.
Granted what gays do in the privacy of thier bedrooms isnt comparable to molesting children, but you cannot take one and say its normal and not the other-the argument will be (and is) the same.
Your conclusion does not follow from your argument. Pedophilia is, essentially, rape. Now can you compare rape to consensual intercourse, even between two people of the same sex?
I for one dont care what ppl do in thier bedrooms. but DO NOT bring it into my schools etc and tell me they are born that way and therefore should be considered normal.
I agree with you on that, schools should be focused on teaching children.
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posted on
02/23/2007 1:27:17 PM PST
by
LtdGovt
("Where government moves in, community retreats and civil society disintegrates" -Janice Rogers Brown)
To: dman4384
Well in my opinion they are just creating so many disorders that itll be impossible to claim you were "born that way" so lets let them run amok with the pc talk.
Honestly MAYBE you could get by with same sex attraction, but how can you be BORN as a crossdresser or transgendered person or intersexed (whatever that is).
The crazier they get, the more obvious they become.
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posted on
02/23/2007 1:28:37 PM PST
by
OMalley
(Just say NO to Rudy "Tootsie" Giuliani-GO Duncan Hunter 08:))
To: dcnd9
Students graduating from montgomery Copunty High Schools cannot fill out an Income tax form, They havent received an education on the various Insurances they may need during their lifetime, They know nothing of how to choose a physician,or how to invst wisely,but thanks to homosexuals and fruits they know all about queers.
IMO there are a lot of things that need to be taught in schools. How to react to students who are perverts isnt needed.
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posted on
02/23/2007 1:32:45 PM PST
by
sgtbono2002
(I will forgive Jane Fonda, when the Jews forgive Hitler.)
To: LtdGovt
Well Its obvious I wont change your mind.
I can tell you that I am very close to this family member and I can tell you that its not simply "behavior modification".
I wish I could remember the poster several years ago on FR (if someone remembers thatd be great) who was a heterosexual and had a homosexual experience on a business trip.
He said the experience was so mind blowing it became like a drug. I can tell you that the program my family member went thru treats homosexuality, in part, as an addiction.
Ive seen more evidence of that, then that they are born that way.
I did NOT say they were comparable.
like i said READ. psychologist are already arguing the exact SAME arguement for pedophiles.
Yes they are different. no comparison at all. again its the ARGUMENT that is the same.
dont take issue with me, take it up with the so called professionals that believe a child can concent and therefore it is not rape. that it is society that creates the harm to the child by saying its bad.
You do know at one point that being homosexual was considered a disorder, just like pediophilea. just because more and more folks came out as being gay, doesnt mean we should normalize it.
like i said slippery slope!
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posted on
02/23/2007 1:38:19 PM PST
by
OMalley
(Just say NO to Rudy "Tootsie" Giuliani-GO Duncan Hunter 08:))
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