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Grades Rise, but Reading Skills Do Not
NY Times ^ | February 23, 2007 | DIANA JEAN SCHEMO

Posted on 02/23/2007 10:20:28 AM PST by neverdem

WASHINGTON, Feb. 22 — High school students nationwide are taking seemingly tougher courses and earning better grades, but their reading skills are not improving through the effort, according to two federal reports released here Thursday that cite grade inflation as a possible explanation.

The National Assessment of Educational Progress, an exam commonly known as the nation’s report card, found that the reading skills of 12th graders tested in 2005 were significantly worse than those of students in 1992, when a comparable test was first given, and essentially flat since students previously took the exam in 2002.

The test results also showed that the overwhelming majority of high school seniors have not fully mastered high-school-level math.

At the same time, however, grade-point averages have risen nationwide, according to a separate survey by the National Assessment, of the transcripts of 26,000 students, which compared them with a study of students’ coursework in 1990.

“There’s a disconnect between what we want and expect our 12th graders to know and do, and what our schools are actually delivering through instruction in the classroom,” David W. Gordon, the superintendent of schools in Sacramento, said at a news conference announcing the results.

The reports offered several rationales for the disparity between rising grade-point averages and tougher coursework on the one hand and stagnant reading scores on the other, including “grade inflation, changes in grading standards” or the possibility that student grades were being increasingly affected by things like classroom participation or extra assignments.

The National Assessment of Educational Progress is considered the yardstick for academic performance because it is the only test taken all across the country. The test of 12th-grade achievement was given to a representative sample of 21,000 high school seniors attending 900 public and private schools from January to March 2005.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: education; naep; nces; publikskoolz; schools
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1 posted on 02/23/2007 10:20:30 AM PST by neverdem
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To: neverdem

it's called grade inflation - when the teacher is burned out of being chappenged and hassled everytime a kid doesn't get the grade they want, and begins to yield to pressure.

the classes get easier and easier, kids get high greade yet learn little.

burnout is common due to the nature of the job (doing the same thing over and over again) and I wonder whether teaching ought to NOT be a primary profession.

Maybe if left to short-timers, and retirees, there might be less teacher burnout, more challenge to students, etc..


2 posted on 02/23/2007 10:24:28 AM PST by camle (keep your mind open and somebody will fill it full of something for you)
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To: neverdem

Did we read this on a thread yesterday? Hard to remember since we don't comprehend what we read.


3 posted on 02/23/2007 10:26:11 AM PST by RightWhale (300 miles north of Big Wild Life)
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To: neverdem
I think it depends on the high school. In my daughters' high school, in the AP courses, they generally used college level texts, but often not the same ones a rigorous college course at a top college would use, or without the supplemental reading required in the college course.

My kids had good reading skills per their SAT and SAT writing scores, but still lacked the crispness and punch in their writing and the incisiveness in their critical reading skills, that I had and that seemed to me generally expected in college work in the mid-1960s.

As to math, my kids took more advanced math courses, but they did not master the fundamentals in the same way we had to in the '60s.... the facility with manipulating algebraic and trigonometric equations just wasn't there, or even the pure arithmetic skills.

I would be inclined to require that AP classes take the same syllabus and readings as the course at a major university -- for example, the AP European history course should use the standard Western civilization syllabus from the University of California in about 1970 (before the PC crap destroyed the academy).

4 posted on 02/23/2007 10:29:14 AM PST by CatoRenasci (Ceterum Censeo Arabiam Esse Delendam -- Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit)
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To: neverdem

Used to be the teachers word in the class room was law. If the kid didn't learn the teacher was given the go ahead to make them learn. Now, there may be problems with this system but the present day system where we put the onerus on the teacher and excuse the student is far more destructive. We are a nation of idiots heading toward slavery.


5 posted on 02/23/2007 10:29:50 AM PST by calex59
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To: CatoRenasci

The academic regimen should be more challenging in the lower grades. Once they reach about 15-years-old, a lot of kids are too distracted to study.


6 posted on 02/23/2007 10:35:04 AM PST by Jeff Chandler (] Tagline Under Construction [)
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To: Jeff Chandler

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7 posted on 02/23/2007 10:37:55 AM PST by AlphaOneAlpha
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To: neverdem

I want to a publick skool and I kin reed an right just find.

Dis artickle just aint write.


8 posted on 02/23/2007 10:38:24 AM PST by UglyinLA
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To: Jeff Chandler
The academic regimen should be more challenging in the lower grades. Once they reach about 15-years-old, a lot of kids are too distracted to study.

Disagree. In most cases, below the age of 15 or so, kids are not intellectually mature enough to really do college level work. There are exceptions (think of John Stuart Mill teaching himself Greek to please his Father - at the age of 5 or 6) but it's generally true even for kids who have pretty high IQs (130+).

You're right, though, that by 15 a lot of kids are to distracted to study. That's the problem to address.

9 posted on 02/23/2007 10:39:21 AM PST by CatoRenasci (Ceterum Censeo Arabiam Esse Delendam -- Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit)
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To: calex59

"We are a nation of idiots heading toward slavery."

and paying for the ride


10 posted on 02/23/2007 10:41:18 AM PST by Leatherneck_MT (Duncan Hunter in 2008)
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To: neverdem

Much comment:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1789872/posts
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1789696/posts
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1789409/posts
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1789362/posts
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1789269/posts
(much "spin" too)


11 posted on 02/23/2007 10:45:36 AM PST by xcamel (Press to Test, Release to Detonate)
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To: neverdem
What I want to know is: how do they feel about themselves?
12 posted on 02/23/2007 10:48:59 AM PST by WorkingClassFilth ("Don't tread on me" - the motto of Patriots. "May I lick your boots?" - the motto of too many "R"s.)
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To: neverdem

Better yet, rather than reading the facts filtered throught he prism of the NY Slimes, go to the NAEP website and see the real figures.

While you might be unsurprised to see that Asians, for example score higher on math than whites, you might also be surprised to see the reverse is true for science scores, or that the true correlation might be with parents' highest educational level rather than for race at all.


13 posted on 02/23/2007 10:53:09 AM PST by Redbob
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To: CatoRenasci
"He said he favors redistricting such seats and also said he favors open primaries in every state so that Republicans can vote for Democrats and vice versa."

What's so special about that?
Thousands of Greek kids do it every day!

14 posted on 02/23/2007 10:55:40 AM PST by Redbob
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To: Redbob
???????

What's the NAEP website url?

Much of the social science research from the 1960's on has shown that the best predictor of student success was the socioeconomic status and educational level of the parents.

15 posted on 02/23/2007 10:59:04 AM PST by CatoRenasci (Ceterum Censeo Arabiam Esse Delendam -- Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit)
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To: camle
Maybe if left to short-timers, and retirees, there might be less teacher burnout, more challenge to students, etc..

That's an interesting idea but I'm of the mind that you just can't fight city hall. The problem isn't basically related to teachers IMO (although there are plenty of problems there for another thread). What's really happening is that teachers are no longer allowed to use methods that actually instill knowledge.

Some of those methods, like expecting kids to really do 2 hours of homework a night, are viewed as 'cruel and unusual punishment' by today's embarrassingly low and twisted standards. Teachers in many places are mainly worried about getting through the day without being cut, shot, poisoned, physically assaulted, raped or otherwise abused and intimidated. When our candy-a$$ed culture gets realistic about dealing with the uneducable (and their irresponsible parents!) and starts enforcing real standards (on both teachers and students!), actual learning will resume.

16 posted on 02/23/2007 11:36:06 AM PST by Bernard Marx
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To: Bernard Marx

Good teachers aren't quitting just because the money is bad. They're quitting because our system keeps kids there in the classrooms that don't want to be there. I have a 22 year old sister who graduated from college in April 2005 and then immediately started work as a full-time substitute teacher at a middle school in place of one who went on maternity leave. The next year she taught full-time at the high school she graduated from in 2002. After one year of that she had enough and got out. Now she makes less outside of the education field altogether.

Frankly I think that all students in the secondary education system need to view getting an education as a privilege. Maybe those who don't get good citizenship grades need to be put to work in community service until they decide they want to give the taxpayers a ROI. The bathrooms in government buildings (schools, police stations, fire stations, offices) need cleaning. The elementary schools, day care centers and nursing/rehab homes need more volunteers. The streets and parks need cleaning & landscaping. Once the adolescent decides they want to resume their education then they can apply for readmission for whichever grade they were in when they decided to be a citizenship problem at school.


17 posted on 02/23/2007 12:04:04 PM PST by Degaston
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To: xcamel

Thanks for the links. The NY Times changed its title again.


18 posted on 02/23/2007 12:30:38 PM PST by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: CatoRenasci
This may be the source of the NYTimes story.
19 posted on 02/23/2007 12:35:23 PM PST by Henry Belden
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To: neverdem

the titles and spins on this topic have been "goofy" at best


20 posted on 02/23/2007 12:55:28 PM PST by xcamel (Press to Test, Release to Detonate)
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