Posted on 02/23/2007 7:45:02 AM PST by Alberta's Child
Thanks for the post. From what I see the only true "red" conservative in this race is Duncan Hunter, and for numerous reasons he simply doesn't have the ability to carry the ball over the '08 line, especially when you figure our candidate is not only running against Hillary, but the ENTIRE Clinton political machine.
Welcome to the growing club.
But if you go marking lil' red books like Chairman Mao
You ain't gonna make it with anyone anyhow!
(Apologies to the Beatles)
Outstanding post, Spiff,
Thanks for another fine effort in creating another list of truthful accounts of the facts, as they exist in the historic record.
This will further drive the RudyBots bonkers! LOL
Voting for POTUS isn't the same as voting for Prom King.*** At least our candidate is getting asked to the Prom. ***
Yes Corin, but only because he has his own dresses.
(TonyRo see my post #237, I should have pinged you then)
I held my nose. I voted all Republicans. I now have a governor that thinks he is king. I won't worry about the least of the worst getting into office anymore. I will vote my conscience and accept that the Lord will put who He wants in office.
He doesn't have the ability to gain a first down.
Nicely put.
Particularly insightful was the absence of certain photos.
I am tired of voting for the lesser of two evils, only to have the gap between the two evils narrow each time I am presented a choice. I feel like the frog that was put into room temperature water and the heat slowly increased. We have now reached a point where I realize the water is hot and I am in danger. (...that the lesser evil is so close to the greater evil that my party's identity is lost.)
Is there no longer a home for those of us that see a difference between good and evil? For those of us that see that the founders based citizen's rights on a fundamental morality based upon a common consensus of what is right and wrong (that actually descended from a common belief in God)?
Ronald Reagan invited us into the party, along with Democrats that had a belief in morality. From the tone of the Rudy supporters, I guess our welcome is being withdrawn. Alienating those of us that hold socially conservative values removes the reason that those of us on both the right and left of other issues have to vote Republican. Without these votes, you must take a large number from the Democrats just to break even. When they see the candidates and see the same thing except for a percieved difference in their stance on the War on Terror, they are going to vote for the anti-war candidate. This is one of the unlearned lessons of 2006. When there is little perceived difference in the parties, most of those "moderates" that Rudy needs go home to the Democrat party candidate.
Vilsack droppped out today. I wonder who will be the first R candidate to face reality.
Jealous?
Humor says a lot about a person. :~)
I agree.
On abortion. You're right there too. That doesn't make it right tho, IMO. Bush's lack of more aggressive action on this issue thus far, is one of the main reasons, my support of him has cooled considerably. But just because politicians do nothing about it, doesn't mean, to me, that it is not an issue to be considered. Who knows that if a Pro-Choice person got in they wouldn't get active on the issue...I can't take a risk like that. Life is too precious.
That's kind of the same thing I think about the gun control thing...why give the opposing side even the slightest chance to get into power on such an important issue....As you said, they can say one thing thru the campaign and do just the opposite once they get in.
I don't consider gay rights a stupid and petty issue. The moral fabric of this country is unraveling faster and faster, why add to it. Gays need to get back in the closet and stay there, and stop corrupting our children.
Becky
Excellent post IMHO. I have not seen anyone else on FR who has said it better and I thank you for taking your time to put this coherent post together.
What an absolutely stunning piece of analysis, AC. There aren't enough superlatives to do it justice. Well done.
The3 number of peoiple who have publically stated they will go third party rather then vote for Rino Rudy is growing. It is time to dump this punk before he splits the aprty.
You stepped in it:
Many misguided FReepers keep repeating this canard that the President doesn't have much to do with the Abortion issue. That statement is simply FALSE.
Let's review SOME of what each President has done for or against abortion from Reagan to Bush II:
President Ronald Reagan 1981-1989:
My administration is dedicated to the preservation of America as a free land, and there is no cause more important for preserving that freedom than affirming the transcendent right to life of all human beings, the right without which no other rights have meaning. -President Ronald Reagan
- President Reagan supported legislation to challenge Roe v. Wade, the 1973 Supreme Court decision that legalized abortion on demand.
- President Reagan adopted the Mexico City Policy, which cut off U.S. foreign aid funds to private organizations that performed and promoted abortion overseas.
- The Reagan Administration cut off funding to the United Nations Fund for Population Activities (UNFPA) because that agency violated U.S. law by participating in Chinas compulsory abortion program.
- The Reagan Administration adopted regulations to prohibit federally funded family planning clinics from promoting abortion as a method of birth control.
- The Reagan Administration blocked the use of federal funds for research using tissue from aborted babies.
- The Reagan Administration helped win enactment of the Danforth Amendment which established that federally funded education institutions are not guilty of sex discrimination if they refuse to pay for abortions.
- President Reagan introduced the topic of fetal pain into public debate.
- The Reagan Administration played a key role in enactment of legislation to protect the right to life of handicapped newborns and signed the legislation into law.
- President Reagan designated a National Sanctity of Human Life Day in recognition of the value of human life at all stages. President Reagan wrote a book entitled Abortion and the Conscience of a Nation, in which he made the case against legal abortion and in favor of overturning Roe v. Wade.
President George H. W. Bush 1989-1993
Since 1973, there have been about 20 million abortions. This a tragedy of shattering proportions.The Supreme Courts decision in Roe v. Wade was wrongly decided and should be overturned. -President George H.W. Bush
- The Bush Administration urged the Supreme Court to overturn Roe v. Wade and allow states to pass laws to protect unborn children, stating protection of innocent human life -- in or out of the womb -- is certainly the most compelling interest that a State can advance.
- President Bush opposed the Freedom of Choice Act, a bill which, he said, would impose on all 50 states an unprecedented regime of abortion on demand, going well beyond Roe v. Wade. The President pledged, It will not become law as long as I am President of the United States. President Bush vowed, I will veto any legislation that weakens current law or existing regulations pertaining to abortion. He vetoed 10 bills that contained proabortion provisions, including four appropriations bills which allowed for taxpayer funding of abortion.
- President Bush vetoed U.S. funding of the UNFPA, citing the agencys participation in the management of Chinas forced abortion program.
- President Bush strongly defended the Mexico City Policy, which cut off U.S. foreign aid funds to private organizations that performed and promoted abortion overseas. Three separate legal challenges to the policy by pro-abortion organizations were defeated by the Administration in federal courts.
- President Bush prohibited 4,000 federally funded family planning clinics from counseling and referring for abortions.
- President Bush steadfastly refused to fund research that encouraged or depended on abortion, including transplantation of tissues harvested from aborted babies.
- The Bush Administration prohibited personal importation of the French abortion pill, RU-486.
- The Bush Administration prohibited the performance of abortion on U.S. military bases, except to save the mothers life and fought Congressional attempts to reverse this policy.
President William Clinton 1993-2001
President Bill Clinton said he has always been pro-choice and has never wavered in his support for Roe v. Wade. I have believed in the rule of Roe v. Wade for 20 years since I used to teach it in law school.
- President Clinton urged the Supreme Court to uphold Roe v. Wade.
- The Clinton Administration endorsed the socalled Freedom of Choice Act, (a bill to prohibit states from limiting abortion even if Roe v. Wade is overturned). FOCA was defeated in Congress.
- The Clinton Administration urged Congress to make abortion a part of a mandatory national health insurance benefits package, forcing all taxpayers to pay for virtually all abortions. The Clinton Health Care legislation died in Congress.
- President Clinton unsuccessfully attempted to repeal the Hyde Amendment, the law that prohibits federal funding of abortion except in rare cases.
- President Clinton twice used his veto to kill legislation that would have placed a national ban on partial-birth abortions. President Clinton ordered federally funded family planning clinics to counsel and refer for abortion.
- The Clinton Administration ordered federal funding of experiments using tissue from aborted babies. President Clintons appointees proposed using federal funds for research in which human embryos would be killed.
- President Clinton ordered U.S. military facilities to provide abortions. President Clinton ordered his appointees to facilitate the introduction of RU 486 in the U.S.
- The Clinton Administration resumed funding to the pro-abortion UNFPA, which participates in management of Chinas forced abortion program.
- President Clinton restored U.S. funding to pro-abortion organizations in foreign nations. His administration declared abortion to be a fundamental right of all women, and ordered U.S. ambassadors to lobby foreign governments for abortion.
- The Clinton Administrations representatives to the United Nations and to U.N. meetings worked to establish an international right to abortion.
President George W. Bush 2001-Present
The promises of our Declaration of Independence are not just for the strong, the independent, or the healthy. They are for everyone -- including unborn children. We are a society with enough compassion and wealth and love to care for both mothers and their children, to see the promise and potential in every human life. -President George W. Bush
- During his first week in office, President Bush reinstated the Mexico City Policy, which prevents tax funds from being given to organizations that perform and promote abortion overseas. He threatened to veto an appropriations bill unless a provision overturning the policy was removed.
- President Bush declared that federal funds will not be used for stem cell research that would require the destruction of human embryos. His threat of a veto stopped an attempt in the U.S. Senate to provide funding for such research.
- President Bush has stopped many anti-life initiatives by threatening vetoes -- including proposals to allow abortion to be covered in federal employees health insurance plans, and allow abortions to be performed in U.S. military medical facilities and within the federal prison system.
- The Bush Administration ruled that federally controlled substances cannot be used to assist suicides. When the decision was overturned in federal district court, the Administration appealed the case.
- President Bush has strongly backed a U.S. ban on human cloning and helped defeat a clone and kill proposal in 2001.
- President Bush has helped win U.S. House approval of pro-life measures including the Child Custody Protection Act and the Abortion Non-Discrimination Act.
- President Bush promoted and signed the Born-Alive Infants Protection Act, which protects all infants born alive, including those who survive abortion.
- The Bush Administrations representatives to the United Nations and to UN meetings and conferences have fought repeated efforts to establish an international right to abortion. President Bush promoted and signed the Partial-Birth Abortion Ban Act, which bans the use of the gruesome partial-birth abortion procedure.
- President Bush supported and signed into law the Unborn Victims of Violence Act, which recognizes unborn children as victims of violent federal crimes.
This utterly disproves the false notion that, once elected, the President doesn everything to avoid the issue or that it doesn't matter much or see much action.
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