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To: Afronaut; familyop; Jim Robinson; blam; dirtboy
Julie-Annie's 2008 handlers showcase Rudy as the "new" Republican----but longtime Repubs are skeptical, characterizing him as a rank opportunist, an individual totally immersed in the Planned Parenthood lifestyle (anathema to social conservatives who are the most important Repub voting bloc).

EXHIBIT ONE Giuliani ran three times for mayor on New York's Liberal Party line. At the same time he distanced himself from the state’s influential Conservative Party, even refusing to foreswear P/B abortion that would have gotten him conservatve backing.

Others question Rudy’s loyalty to the party. In New York’s hotly contested 1994 gubernatorial race he endorsed liberal incumbent Democrat Mario Cuomo against a Republican (Cuomo lost despite Julie's backing). He has voiced support for other liberal Democrats, including Bill Clinton.

EXHIBIT TWO Giuliani’s flawed judgment raised eyebrows in the aftermath of 9/11 when, drunk with power, Julie-Annie sought to suspend the city’s election laws to extend his mayoral term of office. Even blase liberal NY'ers wouldn't buy Julie's naked power grab.

EXHIBIT THREE The myth about Giuliani's credentials on homeland security, and military matters.....is manufactured by his handlers.

CASE IN POINT: Giuliani recently "lost" his mayoral campaign's vulnerabilities playbook. He publicly blamed the "opposition" (Hillary's old VRWC trick). Julie-Annie wanted us to believe that an airport employee knew precisely in which bag, and in which binder the critical documents were, sneaked them out of the bag, copied them, then stealthily returned them to the bag without anyone knowing it.

Giuliani's campaign organization obviously has a leaker, and Julie-Annie did not deal with it? He placed blame on "someone" at the airport. If he was so sure it was an airport employee, did he demand an investigation? Did he file charges?

No, he did not because he knew the story was bogus .......and don't forget that Giuliani is the owner and operator of a multi-million dollar "security" company (formerly known as Giuliani-Kerik LLC).

EXHIBIT FOUR "Security expert" Rudy co-opted GWB into naming his mobbed-up buddy, Bernie Kerik, as Home/Land/Sec chief (Kerik is Rudy's former driver and bodyguard). Kerik was ushered out the WH door when dirt spilled about his hiring an illgal nanny. Married Kerik was also having trysts in an apartment set-aside for 9/11 workers. Kerik later pleaded guilty to misdemeanors for accepting gifts from a company that was trying to do business with New York while he was corrections commissioner.

Giuliani and Kerik were partners in a SECURITY company, and Julie-Annie STILL didn't vett Kerik (leaving GWB embarrased before a global audience).

Some security expert---I wouldn't let Giuliani walk my dog.

42 posted on 02/23/2007 4:39:30 AM PST by Liz (Hunter: For some candidates, a conservative constituency is an inconvenience. For me, it is my hope.)
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To: Liz
EXHIBIT ONE Giuliani ran three times for mayor on New York's Liberal Party line. At the same time he distanced himself from the state’s influential Conservative Party, even refusing to foreswear P/B abortion that would have gotten him conservatve backing.

Wrong. Giuliani had the endorsement of the Liberal Party in 1989 and 1993. They did not give him nomination in 1997, presumably after discovering what he was all about. See here.

Others question Rudy’s loyalty to the party. In New York’s hotly contested 1994 gubernatorial race he endorsed liberal incumbent Democrat Mario Cuomo against a Republican (Cuomo lost despite Julie's backing). He has voiced support for other liberal Democrats, including Bill Clinton.

Wrong. He said that Bill Clinton's policies were similar to his own. Bill Clinton, of course, stole policies from the Republicans, including welfare reform. Giuliani was a big campaigner for Republican candidates this past election cycle.

EXHIBIT TWO Giuliani’s flawed judgment raised eyebrows in the aftermath of 9/11 when, drunk with power, Julie-Annie sought to suspend the city’s election laws to extend his mayoral term of office. Even blase liberal NY'ers wouldn't buy Julie's naked power grab.

Cite and prove.

EXHIBIT THREE The myth about Giuliani's credentials on homeland security, and military matters.....is manufactured by his handlers.

Cite and prove.

CASE IN POINT: Giuliani recently "lost" his mayoral campaign's vulnerabilities playbook. He publicly blamed the "opposition" (Hillary's old VRWC trick). Julie-Annie wanted us to believe that an airport employee knew precisely in which bag, and in which binder the critical documents were, sneaked them out of the bag, copied them, then stealthily returned them to the bag without anyone knowing it.

Cite and prove.

EXHIBIT FOUR "Security expert" Rudy co-opted GWB into naming his mobbed-up buddy, Bernie Kerik, as Home/Land/Sec chief

Cite and prove.

Your post is mostly innuendo. Unless you back up your allegations with hard facts, it's difficult to take them seriously, rather, the entire rhetoric you use indicates an animus against Giuliani more than principled opposition.

Ivan

48 posted on 02/23/2007 4:48:51 AM PST by MadIvan (I aim to misbehave.)
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To: Liz

On Giuliani and eminent domain, see this one (includes some search keywords and one news excerpt). I have to go to work and can't continue the search.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1789695/posts?page=54#54


55 posted on 02/23/2007 5:25:29 AM PST by familyop
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