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To: Wakeup Sleeper
You persist in presenting the false dichotomy that one can accept the Theory of Evolution or the Bible. To say that either rules out the other is nonsense. I would venture to say that many people working in science today accept both. They just don’t accept your interpretation of the Bible.

This can also be said of many people currently in the clergy.

I stand by my assertion that you're posting nonsense. For instance, in your post 389, you boldly tell us the story of “Scientist J.” Is that anything like “Monster Zero”? Who cares what a nameless “scientist” in an unnamed magazine had to say?

You then go on to list the following "scientists who say evolution is bunk." I'm being charitable when I characterize your post as nonsense. I could also make the case that you were posting obvious distortions.

Anyone can look up what ive[sic] posted and see for themselves[sic] and I encourage them to do so!

You went on to post a list of names. Here it is again, in all its mangled glory, with my comments in bold. I followed your advice and looked them up.

Dr. Robert Boyle--- helped develop sciences of chemistry and gas dynamics He died in 1691. What value his views on Darwin’s theory might have is somewhat mysterious.

Dr. Werner Von Braun--- rocket sciences and space exploration He was a deeply religious man, but that doesn’t mean he rejected the Theory of Evolution. Don’t mistake your interpretation of your religion for everyone else’s.

Dr. Authur[sic] Chadwick---Geologist. Bingo! He's a legit ID supporter. (He also posits that the earth is billions of years old. Here’s a link to one of his papers: http://209.85.165.104/search?q=cache:o3GQZ5SoT_MJ:origins.swau.edu/papers/complexity/trilo/article.pdf+%22Arthur+Chadwick%22+bio&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=3&gl=us).

Dr. Melvin Alonzo Cook---Physical Chemist, nobel prize nominee He got the Nitro Nobel Gold medal; it’s not “The” Nobel prize. He was a YEC.

Dr. Francis Bacon---develped the scientific method Died in 1626.

Dr. Steven A Austin---geologist and coal formation expert Can’t find much about him. Put him in your column just to make it fair.

Dr. Humphry Davy---helped develp science of thermokinetics Died in 1829.

Dr. David Brewster---helped develop science of optical mineralogy Died in 1868.

Dr. Henri Fabre---helped develop science of insect entomology Died in d 1915 .

Dr. Micheal Faraday---helped develop science of electromagnetics etc...invented theelectric generator Died in 1867.

Dr. Thomas G Barnes---Physicist Take him, he’s yours. Wikipedia says, “Thomas G. Barnes is a creationist who posited that the magnetic field of the Earth was decaying at an exponential rate.” This is difficult to take seriously.

Dr. Charles Babbage---helped develop science of computers etc... Died in 1871.

Dr. William Herschel---helped develop the science of galactic astronomy discovered double stars etc... Died in 1822.

Nonsense or dishonest? Of the thirteen names that were possible to check, two died in the seventeenth century, two died in the nineteenth but before Darwin’s theory was published, and three others died in the nineteenth century, but after the theory was published. Fabre died in 1915.
408 posted on 03/18/2007 8:36:13 PM PDT by Gumlegs
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To: Gumlegs

Mr. gummybearlegs you are the one with the distortions you have dishonestly scrutinised my post, you should take another look! try Christiananswers.net and get alittle educated before you embark on being a critic. Because you just put your foot in your mouth.


414 posted on 03/18/2007 9:04:25 PM PDT by Wakeup Sleeper
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To: Gumlegs
Dr. Steven A Austin---geologist and coal formation expert Can’t find much about him. Put him in your column just to make it fair.

Dr. Steven A Austin (AKA Stuart Nevins) ICR flunky.
A Visit to the Institute for Creation Research

445 posted on 03/19/2007 1:58:58 PM PDT by dread78645 (Evolution. A doomed theory since 1859.)
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To: Gumlegs
Dr. Thomas G Barnes---Physicist Take him, he’s yours. Wikipedia says, “Thomas G. Barnes is a creationist who posited that the magnetic field of the Earth was decaying at an exponential rate.” This is difficult to take seriously.

It gets worse:

A quick Google search indicates that while Barnes does have a Masters degree in physics, and is a retired professor, his doctorate is an Honorary ScD from his undergrad alma mater, a religious college:

Thomas Barnes, formerly affiliated with the Institute for Creation Research, is perhaps best known for the argument that the decay of the Earth's magnetic field is proof of its young age.

Barnes, who is an emeritus professor of physics at The University of Texas at El Paso, holds a legitimate M.S. degree in physics from Brown University. However, his Sc.D. degree from Hardin-Simmons University, a Christian school and his undergraduate alma mater (when it was known as Hardin-Simmons College), is merely honorary.

as documented by TalkOrigins.

No PhD, ergo no "doctor."

485 posted on 03/21/2007 9:30:57 AM PDT by longshadow (FReeper #405, entering his tenth year of ignoring nitwits, nutcases, and recycled newbies)
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