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Mainstream Media: Pre-term Baby’s Survival Will Have Big Impact on Abortion Debate
LifeSiteNews ^ | 2/22/07 | Gudrun Schultz

Posted on 02/22/2007 4:27:05 PM PST by wagglebee

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To: conservatism_IS_compassion

I fear that would be a terrible political move for Rudy at this eleventh hour. His stance on the issue is consistent with his values and lifestyle. I like the guy, but see the world differently on too many levels.


21 posted on 02/22/2007 5:15:28 PM PST by Lexinom ("That fence is going to be up, that back door is going to be closed." -Duncan Hunter)
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To: justche
I think it's impacted some of the pro-abortion crowd on FR as well.

I've seen pro-choice Freepers, but never outright pro-abortion.

Perhaps I'm mistaken.

22 posted on 02/22/2007 5:51:36 PM PST by Jorge
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To: Hildy

I am a woman and 100% pro-life. My belief was only reinforced when I went into pre-term labor at 19 weeks. I was able to hang on another 5 days, when my son was born. He weighed 1 pound and measured 9 inches long. He was the most beautiful baby I had ever seen. It makes me absolutely sick to my stomach knowing that at 19 weeks, 5 days, any baby could be legally murdered. At his age, he wasn't even viable, but he was pink, moving, and trying to breathe. I look forward to the day when babies his age could be saved. This precious child in the news signals another step forward.


23 posted on 02/22/2007 5:52:44 PM PST by conservatrice
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To: wagglebee

Pro-choice is all about the 'right' to a dead baby regardless of how many weeks alive the unborn child is. Of course, the abortion defenders will lie and say it isn't, but their debates always wind down to that lowest denominator. They want females to have the right to a dead baby.


24 posted on 02/22/2007 5:56:15 PM PST by MHGinTN (If you've had life support. Promote life support for others.)
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To: karnage

I have a growing list, two of whom are posting on this thread already.


25 posted on 02/22/2007 5:57:21 PM PST by MHGinTN (If you've had life support. Promote life support for others.)
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To: Kevmo

I've written a novel on the subject ... but the publishing industry doesn't want that perspective in the public domain if they can help it. Thinking about self-publishing that one.


26 posted on 02/22/2007 6:00:43 PM PST by MHGinTN (If you've had life support. Promote life support for others.)
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To: Jorge

It's the same thing. Pro-choice = Pro-Abortion


27 posted on 02/22/2007 6:01:42 PM PST by justche (Freedom and Security go together - Ronald Reagan)
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To: justche
It's the same thing. Pro-choice = Pro-Abortion

Wrong. Pro-choice = Pro-choice.

They could just as easily say you are for back-alley coat-hanger abortions because that is often the result of your position.

Fact is you don't define other's posistions for them anymore than they can define yours.

28 posted on 02/22/2007 6:06:33 PM PST by Jorge
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To: Jorge

Must have hit a nerve huh? If you're for the choice of choosing to murder an unborn child - then there's no way around being pro-abortion. And if that's your perspective that's fine, but be honest about it.

I believe in the death penalty - so I can go with the title pro-death!

I'm anti-euthanasia, and I'm anti-abortion, so I'll go with the label of pro-life on those two items.

Have a nice night


29 posted on 02/22/2007 6:17:30 PM PST by justche (Freedom and Security go together - Ronald Reagan)
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"Weighing less than 10oz"


From wrist to the tip of your middle finger--on some folks, somewhere around 9.5 inches.


30 posted on 02/22/2007 6:21:03 PM PST by combat_boots (The MSM: State run Democrat media masquerading as corporations)
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To: wagglebee
The Camel's nose has passed the edge of the tent, he's standing in the room. In Britain, under socialized Medicine, you can't get surgery if you still smoke, or if you are obese (coming to a hospital near you). You lose the weight, or you quit smoking (who judges that ?). It will come believe you me, right here in these United States.

There is as much proof that second hand smoke is the direct cause of disease as cow farts cause "global warming". All of these bogus scientific theories are political, NOT scientific. I'm a scientist, with research credentials and I know. The socialists made in roads with the tobacco law suits and they think that with a liberal bench and a bunch of lawyers, eager to make bug bucks and a name, they can stop all of us from doing anything they don't like.

Simple logic defeats the socialists every time, and it doesn't take a research scientist. Read and think, anybody can understand.

31 posted on 02/22/2007 6:24:02 PM PST by timydnuc (I'll die on my feet before I'll live on my knees.)
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To: conservatrice
He was the most beautiful baby I had ever seen.

I'll bet he was...I am so sorry about your loss. You helped us think about him today, though....

Thank you for that.

32 posted on 02/22/2007 6:25:55 PM PST by paulat
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To: combat_boots

you must have really big hands


:)


33 posted on 02/22/2007 6:26:45 PM PST by justche (Freedom and Security go together - Ronald Reagan)
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To: justche
Must have hit a nerve huh?

Don't make me laugh.

If you're for the choice of choosing to murder an unborn child - then there's no way around being pro-abortion. And if that's your perspective that's fine, but be honest about it.

Don't even try to preach to me about "honesty".

The Bible says God opposed divorce but because of the hardness of people's hearts, through Moses, allowed it.

According to your superior morality God is pro-divorce because He allowed it. Even though He disapproved of it.

Who do you think you are? Better than God?

I believe in the death penalty - so I can go with the title pro-death!

God says only those who hate Him love death. You clearly have a problem making sound moral distinctions.

34 posted on 02/22/2007 6:27:24 PM PST by Jorge
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To: MHGinTN

Self publishing is a lot easier than it used to be. The trick is to put the title on Amazon.com for a few months and then take it off. Amazon charges 50% or more commission. Once you get past the initial stages and people start giving your novel the buzz, that's when you pull it.


35 posted on 02/22/2007 6:28:05 PM PST by Kevmo (The first labor of Huntercles: Defeating the 3-headed RINO)
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To: Jorge

I did hit a nerve and now you're twisting what I'm saying to try to feel better about your stance...how's that working for ya?


36 posted on 02/22/2007 6:30:12 PM PST by justche (Freedom and Security go together - Ronald Reagan)
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To: justche
I did hit a nerve and now you're twisting what I'm saying to try to feel better about your stance...how's that working for ya?

This is too funny.

The fact that you cannot respond to a single point I made refuting your nonsense proves how lame your argument really is.

All you can do is parrot "hit a nerve!" "hit a nerve!" LOL.

Polly wanta cracker?

37 posted on 02/22/2007 6:35:07 PM PST by Jorge
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To: Jorge

How would you feel about pregnancy termination laws that mandate doing everything humanly possible to save both human beings involved in the process and/or not allowing termination unless the life of the life supporting female is at stake?


38 posted on 02/22/2007 6:36:17 PM PST by MHGinTN (If you've had life support. Promote life support for others.)
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To: Jorge

I did respond to you - how's the reading comprehension on your end? I said you were twisting words.
You didn't ask any real questions, nor did you make any real points - so there was nothing of substance to reply to directly.




39 posted on 02/22/2007 6:39:44 PM PST by justche (Freedom and Security go together - Ronald Reagan)
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To: MHGinTN
I don't think it's possible to enforce such a law, especially since it's open to such varying interpretations.

For example, I don't think it's plausible to force a rape victim to carry her rapist's child to term simply because her life is not a risk.

I agree it's not the baby's fault, the rape I mean, but these sorts of rules are not going to be enforced.

40 posted on 02/22/2007 6:46:58 PM PST by Jorge
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