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WHY GEFFEN IMBROGLIO SIGNALS CLINTON'S END ('HILLARY'S STRATEGY-NOBODY GETS TO CRITICIZE HER')
Hardball, The New York Times | 2.22.07 | Mia T

Posted on 02/22/2007 10:24:55 AM PST by Mia T

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To: Mia T
"how they use Howard Wolfson and press releases to bash Obama while hillary poses as some distinct entity above it all.."

So right on! When I hear Hillary decry "the politics of personal destruction", I always laugh.

101 posted on 02/23/2007 2:45:22 AM PST by YaYa123
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To: Miss Didi; MHGinTN; All
Haven't check out the NYPost article, but note that they labeled her 'THE WRONGED WOMAN.'
In other words... 'THE VICTIM,' which makes one wonder about the Post's agenda.... -
-me

 



Since leaving the WH, the clintons have been hard at work flipping some of the 'vast right wing conspiracy.'
What have the clintons promised them?
We must be aware of the new alignment when planning our strategy.

As Clinton Runs, Some Old Foes Stay on Sideline

By DAVID D. KIRKPATRICK, The New York Times (EXCERPT)

WASHINGTON, Feb. 16 -- Back when Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton was first lady, no one better embodied what she once called the "vast right-wing conspiracy" than Richard Mellon Scaife....

But now, as Mrs. Clinton is running for the Democratic presidential nomination, Mr. Scaife's checkbook is staying in his pocket.

Christopher Ruddy, who once worked full-time for Mr. Scaife investigating the Clintons and now runs a conservative online publication he co-owns with Mr. Scaife, said, "Both of us have had a rethinking."

"Clinton wasn't such a bad president," Mr. Ruddy said. "In fact, he was a pretty good president in a lot of ways, and Dick feels that way today."

... As a senator from New York, Mrs. Clinton has built an alliance with some former critics like Rupert Murdoch, chairman of News Corporation. He has raised money for her, and his New York Post has grown respectful in its coverage.  

 

COMMENT to Ruddy, Scaife, Murdoch et al.: Huh?

  1. the clintons' documented abuse of power 4 (redacted via clinton abuse of power!)

       

  2. the clintons' terrorism failure 3.



  3. the clintons' 1 rape of Juanita Broaddrick 2

... Many Republicans, meanwhile, say her candidacy is the best hope to reunify their party at a time when many conservatives are unhappy with the ideological credentials of the front-runners for the Republican nomination....

Many conservatives still consider Mrs. Clinton the Helen of Troy of direct mail, the face who can launch a thousand donations. Richard Viguerie, a direct mail pioneer who worked on former Mayor Rudolph W. Giuliani's short-lived Senate campaign against Mrs. Clinton in 1999, said he had not had such success in four decades of fund-raising.

"We couldn't mail enough," Mr. Viguerie said. "The money was just coming in in bucketloads from all over the country."

...Still Mr. Viguerie, speaking by phone from a meeting at the office of a founding father of the conservative movement, Paul Weyrich, said they would attack Mrs. Clinton with everything they had. "The vast right-wing conspiracy lives," he said.


103 posted on 02/23/2007 5:58:11 AM PST by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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To: All
 

HAVE RICHARD MELLON SCAIFE, RUPERT MURDOCH AND CHRIS RUDDY REALLY JUMPED SHIP?
(AND WHAT ARE THE CLINTONS PROMISING THEM, ANYWAY?)

104 posted on 02/23/2007 4:33:44 PM PST by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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To: YaYa123

bump

The clintons' fundamental error: They are too arrogant and dim-witted to understand that the demagogic process in this fiberoptic age isn't about counting spun heads; it's about not discounting circumambient brains.


105 posted on 02/23/2007 6:53:53 PM PST by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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To: CoolPapaBoze
implies to me at least, that he is more than a match for Hillary

Most any one truly is more than a match for Hillary.
She used the NO ONE CAN CRITIZER HER campaign when she ran for the senate, Lazeo(sp) would destroy her in any debate,but the media would not hear of it. They waited and when he approached her it was all over. I would say she is an empty pant suit, but damn those pants are stretched to the limit. Besides it's what fills the pants in her case nothing more than $hit.

108 posted on 02/24/2007 5:21:32 AM PST by Gone_Postal (Communism works only in Heaven, where they don’t need it, and in Hell, where they’ve already got it.)
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To: YaYa123; Miss Didi; All
Check out talking points--supposed antidote to Geffen--hillary-ous.


 




Regarding talking point 2:

THE 'ABNER MIKVA' FACTOR: Why missus clinton will not get the nomination
(THE CHICKENS WILL COME HOME TO ROOST)

 

by Mia T, 01.19.07


One of the biggest advantages Senator Clinton enjoys as she launches her presidential bid is the vast web of politically active Democrats who worked in the federal government under her husband, President Clinton. But not everyone who served during the Clinton years is promoting a reprise.... And a former White House counsel to Mr. Clinton, Abner Mikva,1 told The New York Sun he thought the candidate he is backing, Senator Obama, has a better chance of winning than Mrs. Clinton does.

Hillary Sees Bill's Allies Fall Away
NY Sun ^ | January 19, 2007 | JOSH GERSTEIN

 

 

 

Let's call a spade a spade.

Abner Mikva is not supporting missus clinton because he can't stand her and because he knows she is mentally unfit.3

And how does he know that?

Simple.

He had the misfortune to be on the receiving end of her psychopathy.1

The chickens will come home to roost.


NOTE:
This is not to say Abner Mikva isn't speaking the truth about the electability of Obama v. hillary. The charisma and blank slate of Obama are the perfect antidote to missus clinton's repulsiveness and baggage... (baggage which includes executive
FAILURE, btw).

Obama-mania is fueled primarily by the hillary 'dud' factor.2

 

 




HILLARY CLINTON'S REPRESSED RAGE3

"She is angry. Not all the time. But most of the time."

 

author Gail Sheehy
Hillary's Choice
(New York: Random House, 1999) p. 11

"[Hillary Clinton] is in a perpetual state of suspended anger...."

 

former Clinton adviser
to author Gail Sheehy
Hillary's Choice
(New York: Random House, 1999) p. 139

"Hillary hit him between the eyes. She was angrier than Paul had ever seen her. 'You f**king Jew bastard!' she screamed."

 

author Jerry Oppenheimer
quoting campaign aide Paul Fray
State of a Union
(New York: Harper-Collins, 2000) p. 153

 

 

 

[W]hen White House Counsel... Abner Mikva finally bowed to the law and delivered subpoenaed documents, she and her White House scandal team lashed at him with such a vicious streak of humiliating profanity that he resigned.

 

Barbara Olson
Hell to Pay
(Washington, D.C.: Regnery, 1999) p. 5

"Anyone that stood up... was smashed down and belittled,very personally. [N]ot only would she sort of humiliate you in front of your colleagues or whoever happened to be around, Hillary tended to kind of campaign against people behind their back, and that was certainly my experience."

 

former Clinton press secretary Dee Dee Myers
PBS Frontline, 16 Jan 2001
The Clinton Years

 

Longtime Hillary aide Carolyn Huber, who saved Mrs. Clinton's buns in 1996 with a convenient cover story about how her mysterious Rose Law Firm billing records magically appeared in the White House book room, described the former first lady's fits of rage to Sheehy as nearly lethal. "The person on the receiving end never gets over it," Huber remembered, reportedly shivering as she spoke those words.

 

Hillary's Scheme
(New York: Crown Forum, 2003) p. 88
Hillary's Choice
(New York: Random House, 1999) p. 11

The rages continued even after Mrs. Clinton took up residence in the White House, where she blew up at a Secret Service agent for declining to carry her bags. When the agent explained that he needed to keep his hands free in order to protect her, she replied, "If you want to remain on this detail, get your f**king ass over here and grab those bags."

 

Joyce Milton
First Partner
(New York: William Morrow, 1999) p. 259


109 posted on 02/24/2007 9:01:43 AM PST by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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To: smoothsailing
"What are you doing inviting these people into my home? These people are our enemies! They are trying to destroy us!"

Too bad Republicans don't get this.

110 posted on 02/24/2007 9:08:41 AM PST by Lijahsbubbe
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To: YaYa123; All

how they use Howard Wolfson and press releases to bash Obama while hillary poses as some distinct entity above it all..--Mia T

So right on! When I hear Hillary decry "the politics of personal destruction", I always laugh.--YaYa123



'The politics of personal destruction,' is the sum total of this soulless, angry creature.

The rape took place while Bill was running for governor. Hillary came bursting into the room to talk to two people, one of whom I personally know.

She said "You won't believe what this [expletive] did now. He tried to rape some b*tch."

It was the job of these two to squelch the story.

doug from upland to Sean Hannity,
WABC, 10/16/00





"Crucial to this protective wall was the secret police, a group of private detectives hired to protect hillary and 'Saturday night bill.' Their tactics included digging up dirt on women who might be linked to bill in order to cow them into silence. There is even some evidence of possible physical intimidation."

HEAR DICK MORRIS




 

"I got the letters from Pellicano to these women intimidating them. I had tapes of conversations from Pellicano to the women. I got handwritten letters from the women."
[Pellicano played a critical role in Mr. Clinton's 1992 presidential campaign by "suppressing" "inconvenient" accounts from several women, by concocting fraudulent "proof" (later discredited) that Gennifer Flowers doctored the damning tape of clinton, and again inside the clinton operation in January 1998, four days after the Monica Lewinsky story broke, to falsely paint Monica as simply a lying stalker, a claim later discredited by clinton's own DNA.]

MARY MATALIN
1997, CBS




 

There is reason to believe that he is a rapist ("You better get some ice on that," Juanita Broaddrick says he told her concerning her bit lip), and that he bombed a country to distract attention from legal difficulties arising from his glandular life, and that... [f]urthermore, the bargain that he and his wife call a marriage refutes the axiom that opposites attract. Rather, she, as much as he, perhaps even more so, incarnates Clintonism

GEORGE WILL
SLEAZE, THE SEQUEL




Connecticut Rep. Chris Shays said on a talk radio show Wednesday that, based on secret evidence he reviewed during the impeachment controversy, he believes President Clinton raped Juanita Broaddrick, not once, but twice.

Talk-show host Tom Scott of Clear Channel Broadcasting, New Haven (WELI 960) asked Shays about the mysterious impeachment "evidence room," prompting the GOP moderate to say that Broaddrick "disclosed that she had been raped, not once, but twice" to Judiciary Committee investigators.

Shays, who is often hailed by the New York Times for his independent judgment and good sense, found the evidence compelling:

"I believed that he had done it. I believed her that she had been raped 20 years ago. And it was vicious rapes, it was twice at the same event." Asked point blank if the president is a rapist, Shays said, "I would like not to say that it way. But the bottom line is that I believe that he did rape Broaddrick."

HEAR CHRISTOPHER SHAYS
'Shays Shocker Clinton Raped Broaddrick Twice'
National Review Online
By NR staff
8/02/2000




"Who is Juanita Broaddrick? I've never heard of her!" cried Betty Friedan, the founder of modern feminism. Friedan's outburst came at last Friday's conference, entitled "The Legacy and Future of Hillary Rodham Clinton." Held at the American Enterprise Institute in Washington. D.C., the event offered a chilling microcosm of an angry, divided America.

For nearly an hour, a five-woman panel had been debating whether Hillary qualified as a "feminist heroine." I thought Broaddrick's claim of having been raped by Hillary's husband had some bearing on this point, so I broached the subject during the question-and-answer period. Friedan's dyspeptic denial followed.

Was Friedan telling the truth? Maybe. And maybe all those millions of Germans who professed ignorance of the death camps were telling the truth too. The problem is, having admitted her ignorance, Friedan showed no interest in exploring the matter further. And that was the problem with the Germans too.

Totalitarian impulses flourished at the conference. Taking a page from Soviet psychiatry, some Clintonites suggested that Hillary hating might be a mental illness.

Richard Poe
The Hillary Conspiracy




Given the silence from the West Wing, Mrs. Broaddrick this week sought answers from Hillary Clinton, whose telescopic feminism apparently sees injustice to women everywhere except the kind which occurs closer to home.

In a letter to Mrs. Clinton recalling their meeting shortly after the reported assault occurred, she wondered about the significance of Mrs. Clinton's words to her at that time. Thank you, Mrs. Broaddrick says Mrs. Clinton told her, for "everything you do for Bill."

"What did you mean, Hillary?" her letter continued. "Were you referring to my keeping quiet about the assault I had suffered at the hands of your husband only two weeks before? Were you warning me to keep quiet?"

The not-so-subtle implication of the letter is that Mrs. Clinton is, in fact, her husband's enabler. Dealing with her husband's promiscuity and worse might keep her from dealing with the important issues facing the people of New York, namely her candidacy. One might call it a Faustian bargain except that even Mephistopheles might not lower himself to sign such a deal....

COMPLETE ARTICLE

Did he rape that woman, Juanita Broaddrick?
The Wall Street Journal
EDITORIAL
October 18, 2000





 

I remember it as though it was yesterday. I only wish that it were yesterday and maybe there would still be time to do something about what your husband, Bill Clinton, did to me. There was a political rally for Mr. Clinton's bid for governor of Arkansas. I had obligated myself to be at this rally prior to my being assaulted by your husband in April, 1978. I had made up my mind to make an appearance and then leave as soon as the two of you arrived. This was a big mistake, but I was still in a state of shock and denial. You had questioned the gentleman who drove you and Mr. Clinton from the airport. You asked him about me and if I would be at the gathering. Do you remember? You told the driver, "Bill has talked so much about Juanita", and that you were so anxious to meet me. Well, you wasted no time. As soon as you entered the room, you came directly to me and grabbed my hand. Do you remember how you thanked me, saying "we want to thank you for everything that you do for Bill". At that point, I was pretty shaken and started to walk off. Remember how you kept a tight grip on my hand and drew closer to me? You repeated your statement, but this time with a coldness and look that I have seen many times on television in the last eight years. You said, "Everything you do for Bill". You then released your grip and I said nothing and left the gathering.

What did you mean, Hillary? Were you referring to my keeping quiet about the assault I had suffered at the hands of your husband only two weeks before? Were you warning me to continue to keep quiet? We both know the answer to that question.

Yes, I can answer Brit Hume's question. You are the same Hillary that you were twenty years ago. You are cold, calculating and self-serving. You cannot tolerate the thought that you will soon be without the power you have wielded for the last eight years. Your effort to stay in power will be at the expense of the state of New York. I only hope the voters of New York will wake up in time and realize that Hillary Clinton is not an honorable or an honest person.

I will end by asking if you believe the statements I made on NBC Dateline when Lisa Myers asked if I had been assaulted and raped by your husband?
 
Or perhaps, you are like Vice-President Gore and did not see the interview.

DO YOU REMEMBER?
AN OPEN LETTER TO HILLARY CLINTON
BY JUANITA BROADDRICK
SUNDAY OCT 15, 2000




 

"It's no longer acceptable to say that the abuse and mistreatment of women is cultural. It should be called what it is: criminal."

Hillary Clinton
addressing the UN, 3.4.99






111 posted on 02/24/2007 10:45:10 AM PST by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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To: MHGinTN; All
Yet another time when the Clintons were unwilling to stand for the things that they genuinely believe in.--Geffen

The quote highlights the disease in liberalism, the disease that infects men like Geffen ... if the clinton's had any character strength, they would stand for what they genuinely believe, but seeing that they never stand for something genuine, liberals continue to believe in the clintons anyway! ... How does that saying go, true insanity is repeating failed methods proven wrong believing the outcome will be different? That operant definition of insanity, doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results, is attributed to Einstein--MHGinTN

(That operant definition of insanity, doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results, is attributed to Einstein.)

Geffen got so close, but sadly, missed the bullseye. The clintons always stand for what they genuinely believe in--themselves.

WHY THE GEFFEN IMBROGLIO SIGNALS CLINTON'S END
'HILLARY'S STRATEGY--NOBODY GETS TO CRITICIZE HER' -- CHRIS MATTHEWS

with a WARNING FOR DAVID GEFFEN



112 posted on 02/24/2007 11:36:03 AM PST by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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To: theDentist; Miss Didi; jla; All

A similar thesis from Bill Kristol:


The Weekly Standard






You Go, Geffen!

Hillary Clinton's very bad week.


by William Kristol
03/05/2007, Volume 012, Issue 24


We know from the philosophers that a true statement is true without regard to the reliability or sagacity of the person who utters it. We have it on good authority that the truth shall set us free. David Geffen spoke truth to Maureen Dowd last week. And he may have triggered a series of events that will set the Democratic party free from its Clinton captivity.

Here is what the Hollywood mogul told the New York Times gossip columnist:

I don't think that another incredibly polarizing figure, no matter how smart she is and no matter how ambitious she is--and God knows, is there anybody more ambitious than Hillary Clinton?--can bring the country together. Obama is inspirational, and he's not from the Bush royal family or the Clinton royal family. . . .

I don't think anybody believes that in the last six years, all of a sudden Bill Clinton has become a different person. . . . I think [Republicans] believe she's the easiest to defeat. . . .

It's not a very big thing to say, "I made a mistake" on the war, and typical of Hillary Clinton that she can't. She's so advised by so many smart advisers who are covering every base . . . that machine is going to be very unpleasant and unattractive. . . .

Marc Rich getting pardoned? An oil-profiteer expatriate who left the country rather than pay taxes or face justice? Yet another time when the Clintons were unwilling to stand for the things that they genuinely believe in. Everybody in politics lies, but they do it with such ease, it's troubling.

There it is, in black and white. Will it set the Democrats free? It could. Hillary Clinton was cruising along, raising big money, triangulating on Iraq, rounding up supporters who felt they had little choice but to sign on. And then Geffen spoke up. Suddenly Democrats all over the country may be thinking to themselves, "Well, what about that? Why exactly do we have to be for Hillary anyway? Shouldn't we consider some alternatives?"

Once unleashed, this series of thoughts is subversive. So much of the Hillary Clinton candidacy depends on an aura of inevitability, supported by oodles of money and a fear of retribution if you're not on board. But what if she's not inevitable? And what if the retribution isn't so all-powerful?

That's what is now being tested. Now that it has been raised, the thought that Hillary isn't the ideal nominee might spread. Hence Team Clinton's need to enforce omertà. Hillary's attack dog, Howard Wolfson, couldn't even take the time to do some basic fact-checking before rushing out an attack email demanding Obama denounce the remarks of Geffen, "his campaign's finance chair." But Geffen is not and has never been Obama's finance chair. He has no official role in the Obama campaign.

Obama's aides pointed out the falsehood. Obama himself commented, "It's not clear to me why I'd be apologizing for someone else's remark." (Notice he didn't exactly disavow the remarks.) And Obama spokesman Robert Gibbs fired back: "The Clintons had no problem with David Geffen when [he] was raising them $18 million and sleeping at their invitation in the Lincoln bedroom."

Then the next day, Obama convinced a credulous Adam Nagourney of the New York Times that he personally hadn't been aware of his aide's statement. After all, he got himself quoted saying on page 1 of the Times, "I don't want us to be a party to these kinds of distractions because I want to make sure that we're spending time talking about issues. My preference going forward is that we have to be careful not to slip into playing the game as it customarily is played."

Nicely done. Geffen's comments get repeated in three days' worth of stories--because how can you report about the spat without reporting the remarks that started it?--and Obama gets to rise above the fray. And consider the original response by Gibbs. He went out of his way to respond not to Hillary Clinton, and not to Howard Wolfson, but to "the Clintons": "We aren't going to get in the middle of a disagreement between the Clintons. . . . The Clintons had no problem . . . "

Very nicely done. Is Sen. Clinton not her own person? Are we again getting two for the price of one? Hillary Clinton's popularity soared after the Monica affair, when she achieved a kind of political separation from her husband. That's what made her Senate race possible, and her current presidential candidacy plausible. Relinking her to Bill makes her political life more complicated.

Obama is running an impressive campaign. But if he ultimately falters because voters think him too inexperienced--then the experienced, antiwar-from-the-start, and environmentally prophetic Al Gore is waiting in the wings. It was a bad week for Hillary.

--William Kristol

© Copyright 2007, News Corporation, Weekly Standard, All Rights Reserved.


113 posted on 02/24/2007 12:32:14 PM PST by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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To: Miss Didi; jla; All
Here is what the Hollywood mogul told the New York Times gossip columnist~William Kristol

Bill Kristol really knows how to hurt a lady. ;)

114 posted on 02/24/2007 12:40:23 PM PST by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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To: Mia T
From Michael Barone's latest column in US News & World Report (and my post on that thread):

"Hillary vs. Rudy"

First, there's a huge difference between men and women in almost every state. Hillary carried men only in California (48 to 45 percent), which has 55 electoral votes. Rudy carries women in Alabama, Alaska, Arizona, Colorado, Georgia, Idaho, Indiana, Kansas, Kentucky, Montana, Nebraska, Nevada, New Hampshire, New Jersey, North Carolina, North Dakota, Oklahoma, Oregon, Pennsylvania, South Dakota, Tennessee, Utah, Virginia, and Wyoming: 194 electoral votes. That's a huge advantage for Giuliani, though if we assume his lead over Clinton is not as great today as it was last July, not as huge as the contrast between 194 and 55 suggests.

Golly, let's chat. Let's have a conversation. I guess the gals out there aren't digging the coffee klatsch?
115 posted on 02/24/2007 12:46:45 PM PST by Miss Didi ("Good heavens, woman, this is a war not a garden party!" Dr. Meade, Gone with the Wind)
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To: Mia T

That was no lady, that was the rodhamster on her wheel.


116 posted on 02/24/2007 1:52:34 PM PST by MHGinTN (If you've had life support. Promote life support for others.)
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To: MHGinTN
Bill was referring to MoDo, as was Mia.
117 posted on 02/24/2007 2:19:52 PM PST by Miss Didi ("Good heavens, woman, this is a war not a garden party!" Dr. Meade, Gone with the Wind)
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To: MHGinTN
i'm referring to the 'gossip columnist,' not the baggage-laden scold.

Kristol called Dowd a gossip columnist.' Ouch.

118 posted on 02/24/2007 2:21:05 PM PST by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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To: theDentist

This is a signal that even slight criticism of the beast and Master Bill will not be tolerated, even in the most loyal, liberal, Democrat circles.


119 posted on 02/24/2007 2:21:30 PM PST by Luke21
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To: Miss Didi; Mia T
Ugh ... never mind.
120 posted on 02/24/2007 2:22:48 PM PST by MHGinTN (If you've had life support. Promote life support for others.)
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