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To: hellbender

The Bill of Rights are not about morality. They are about Freedom.

You may really believe that the majority feels as you do but the United States is a Republic and if the people of the United States wanted abortion to be illegal they would vote such that only pro- life candidates would win. Pelosi would not be speaker. Clinton would have never been elected. The Bush Gore contest would have not been close. The Democrat party would disappear. And the Supreme Court would be filled with nine pro-life Justices.

The election results speak the truth of how people really feel. At least the majority.


115 posted on 02/22/2007 11:37:29 AM PST by Sabramerican
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To: Sabramerican

I do NOT feel that the majority of Americans necessarily feel as I do. I do believe that most FReepers are Constitutional conservatives (not radical libertarians) who believe life begins at conception and see this an an issue of fundamental human rights, with the right to life trumping every other value.

Anyway, by your logic we should all give up and close down FR because the sheeple have spoken and the Demonrats are the majority party. Let's just let the abortion lobby, the public employee unions, the cultural Marxists, and the MSM tell us all what to think.


116 posted on 02/22/2007 11:47:27 AM PST by hellbender
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To: Sabramerican

The Bill of Rights and the rest of the Constitution establish certain SPECIFIC rights. They do NOT make sweeping statements like "everyone can do whatever they want, as long as they don't hurt anyone." No adult believes that rights are unlimited. No civilized society anywhere has ever believed that. The Founders were very conscious of the risks of anarchy as well as those of tyranny.

Let's get back to the issue, which is Rudy G. and abortion. Your so fixated on "rights," but do you think people below a certain age have no rights? History shows that societies which allow abortion move on to deprive other classes of humans of the right to life, such as the very old (euthanasia), the mentally deficient, and so on. We're seeing that progression right now in Europe.

I can see a spiritual descendant of Rudy G. saying: "Personally, I'm opposed to killing off Grandpa, but only until he's 90, or only after he's had a stroke. But I believe the children should have the choice of whether he lives. I think it's their right."


125 posted on 02/22/2007 11:58:56 AM PST by hellbender
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