Tot Rep Dem Ind
Clinton 43% 4% 80% 35%
Giuliani 48 88 14 55
SMONE ELSE(VOL) 1 1 - 2
WLDN'T VOTE(VOL) 2 2 1 3
DK/NA 5 5 4 6
Giuliani tops Clinton 55 - 38 percent in Red states, which voted Republican in the 2004 presidential election,
Rudy isn't splitting the base according to these numbers. And he won't. Pragmatic and realistic conservatives and Republicans know Rudy is so much better than Hillary. Sure the right wing nut fringe might stay home or vote otherwise but Rudy will capture 5 times as many independents and moderate Democrats than he will lose with the right fringe. No other Republican can do that.
Rudy splits the base according to the two latest polls on FR.
Looks like our true blue conservative did pretty well in our prior poll. Let's now see what happens if we nominate a social liberal who's okay with abortion, gay unions and gay rights is a gun grabber and is weak on illegal immigration. Who do you vote for in the general?
The social liberal with the big "R"
32.7%
Third party
28.2%
Undecided/praying
26.0%
Stay home
10.1%
Hillary, et al
2.9%
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1782311/posts
The New FR Poll
February 09, 2007 | Processing Please Hold
Posted on 02/09/2007 5:18:36 PM PST by processing please hold
Any guesses on who 'The Patriot with the big "R" behind his name is?
Pragmatic and realistic conservatives and Republicans know Rudy is so much better than Hillary.
***Pragmatic and realistic conservatives know that a socon wouldn't split the base.
Sure the right wing nut fringe might stay home or vote otherwise but Rudy will capture 5 times as many independents and moderate Democrats than he will lose with the right fringe.
***What is it that compels Rudophiles to come onto a socon site and call us right wing nut fringe voters? If that's who we are, why bother trying to persuade us to vote for him? The answer is simple: because we are NOT fringe voters, we are the base. (Sorry, can't pass up a chance at humor here -- all your base belong to us). If we were the lunatic fringe, Rudy's followers would just ignore us.
No other Republican can do that.
***Duncan Hunter is solid on two areas that cut deeply across party lines and appeal to mainstream voters. One is immigration, where middle america is fed up. The other is fair trade, again where middle america is fed up. He's very strong on the kinds of issues that the average american admires.
Delphinium has a great example of how these kinds of polls and MSM trashing of socon candidates mean absolutely nothing when the time comes to push the lever. If anything, the negative media attention serves our purposes better when we have a good socon candidate. The media would turn on Rudy so fast it would make a galaxy spin.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1787224/posts?page=464#305
Bill Sali won and he was very unashamedly pro-life, less government, less spending, no on taxes, free interprise , no homosexual marriage etc.. and support for the Iraq war securing our borders...all of Jims suggestions.
The media trashed him, the Rinos trashed him even in the general, The polls that the media reported had him so low it looked impossible.
He won big! They were reporting total lying polls to affect the election.
305 posted on 02/19/2007 8:48:35 PM PST by Delphinium
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