Posted on 02/22/2007 5:37:12 AM PST by holymoly
>The most common killers may surprise you
Well, well:
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You are ballisticly illiterate. The AK round (7.62x39) is equal to the 30.30, a round that takes more deer every year than most any other. The .223 round was designed as a varmit round, not to "kill humans" and was adapted to the Armalite rifle. Since most states don't allow it for deer because it is not powerful enough, why would anyone think it would be good to "kill humans"?
If you are going to hunt deer the .270 (or 7mm) is the smallest round I would use and I prefer the .308 or .30-06<--(especially).
The .270 is not a 7mm projectile but it is roughly the same ballisticly as the 30.06 since it is a necked down .06 case. The .308 is slightly inferior to both for larger game since it is a shorter case and won't handle longer heavy bullets as well.
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First off I never said the .270 and 7mm were the same rounds. And the .30-30 is a faster round than the 7.62 x 39mm round and can be found or reloaded in different bullet types besides ball, which is not a particularly good hunting round.
As for 5.56 x 45mm's ability to kill humans, it does just fine and I have punched numerous allah tickets with it, usually requiring only one round. And if you had ever seen the wounds produced by it, which I doubt you have, then you would see your argument is without merit. I neary ripped a guy's arm off (skin was the only thing holding it on) with this "varmint" round at around 100m.
As for the .308's ability to bring down down larger game, I load my .308's with Speer 168 gr HPBT match round bullets and have never once had to shoot an animal more than once to bring it down. Last year I brough down an 8 point 190 pound buck with a single round to the neck from over 500m using my M-14. One shot one kill. The differece between a .308 and a .30-06 is only a little over 200 fps muzzle with 168 gr bullets. And those numbers are taken straight from my Hornady Reloading manual.
"If you are going to hunt deer the .270 (or 7mm) is the smallest round I would use and I prefer the .308 or .30-06<--(especially)."
You are welcome to your opinion, but most knowledgable people feel the .243 Winchester, 6 mm. Remington, .25-06, and .257 Roberts are fine deer cartridges. As I posted earlier, the 6.5 mm. Grendel looks like a nice AR-compatible deer cartridge. I hope to find out pretty soon here.
Perhaps you should do some reading. :-)
The terminal performance concerns about the 5.56 x 45 round stem more from the change in weapon than the round itself. The A2/A3/A4 had a 20" heavy bbl. The switch to the M4 as the standard weapon has reduced the bbl length to 14.5", which reduces not only it's accuracy at long ranges but also it's muzzle velocity. But given the type of environment in which we now fight, the M4 is the right weapon for the job. I hated clearing buildings with my A2 because it was too long. I used to sling it across my back and use my M9. Collapse the stock on an M-4 and it's an ideal weapon for clearing buildings.
The wound channel is not as small as you think. That bullet tumbles immediately and tears the shit out of everything in it's path.
The Second Amendment clearly states that it is about "...the security of a Free State..." not about fighting the government of that Free State.
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