Geffen-Clinton snit tests Obama (HOLLYWOOD RATFIGHT ERUPTS)

Chicago Sun-Times ^ | February 22, 2007 | LYNN SWEET Washington Bureau Chief

[mainepatsfan]

The MSM will turn their guns on one of them at some point. I'm still betting they don't have the courage to turn on the Clintons as of yet.

[mewzilla]

And the American body politic is in need of a Toon exorcism.

[MrRights]

Why do I think this is all a set-up for Hillary to eventually make nice-nice and put B. Hussien Obama on the ticket?

[Revelation 911]

The MSM will turn their guns on one of them at some point. I'm still betting they don't have the courage to turn on the Clintons as of yet.

as soon as the sharks smells blood, the msm will turn on hillary is my bet....too much baggage will be the claim

[gridlock]

Just stating the obvious, but, Obama is the only one permitted to "take it to the Clintons" without being ravaged by the media for doing so.

Reminds me of one of those RealTV specials on FOX... When Sacred Cows Collide!

[mainepatsfan]

If they come to the conclusion that she can't win they will indeed. What delicious irony it would be to finally watch the Clintons destroyed by the MSM.

[finnigan2]

"I can't help but think this whole media event is being staged by the Clinton War Room."

- Yes, something is rotten in the state of Denmark.
While Geffen may be a political innocent, he is the consummate insider; a shrewd business man who has made millions in the entertainment field where he would have to have a pretty good antenna to spot liars, blow-hards and phonies in order to survive. He must know that Obama's candidacy lacks any substance.
That's why it's hard to believe that such a shrewd judge of character could even believe that Barak Hussein could have a snowballs chance in hell of ever defeating the Clinton's, who have a proven track record of deceit and dirty tricks.
I believe that the Clinton's have done their polling and know that B.O. hasn't a chance when it comes to the primaries but in the meantime they are using him as a stalking horse to promote controversy and keep Hitlery continually in the news until the time comes to pull the plug on him.
Geffen, a back room boy if there ever was one, may just be goosing the controversy to help the cause.
If Geffen is still supporting Obama and trashing Hitlery a year from now, I might begin to believe he is sincere.

[varon]

And then Clinton pardoned Marc Rich and Pincus Green for lots and lots of cash, and that kind of PO'ed Geffen.

Not only lots and lots of cash but also some action from Mrs. Rich................

[AppyPappy]

Geffen was close enough to the Clinton's to know the scoop about them. I suspect he thinks that Hillary can't win. I think he is wrong. He also knows that any squabbles can be cleared up with money later.

[SteveH]

Obama was shown in multiple instances in California shaking hands with ordinary people on the street and talking at ease with journalists in off-the-cuff interviews about this issue.

The typical Hillary response came in a 1-on-1 (ie tightly scripted) interview with Stepanopolis, not in a public impromptu comment to journalists.

I think this is an indication that Hillary can't stand the heat and she's got a political glass jaw.

(Obama vs Condi in 2008?)

[Oldexpat]

Will there be a Rat versus Rat debate? That would be worth the price a admission.

[gridlock]

I was reading back in the archives. Geffen was really angry with the Clintons over what he saw as a betrayal over Leonard Peltier. Apparently Clinton promised Geffen and his friends that he would grant clemency to Peltier way back in 1991, before he was ever elected President. Then Clinton strung them all along for the next nine years, and stiffed them at the very end.

This could be a rift between Geffen and the Clintons that is beyond bridging. I read this at face value, that Geffen is supporting Obama because Obama is the best chance to beat the Clintons.

I guess the enemy of my enemy is my friend (for now)...

[gridlock]

(Obama vs Condi in 2008?)

I like it!

[Mr. Jeeves]

[Doc Savage]

Breaking News!! AP: Washington, DC. Hollywood mogul, David Geffen, was found dead in Fort Marcy Park, an apparent suicide. A car with AK plates was seen leaving the parking lot shortly before the body was found.

Federal Park Police Captain, Craig Livingstone, said that even though a severed horse's head was found next to Geffen's body, he believes it was a simple case of suicide.

[Revelation 911]

I might begin to believe he is sincere.

unless he is posturing for influence - support obama now - wait til he has a gaffe, then throw the support behind hillary, garnering an indebtedness

[rhombus]

By creating a supposed fight between Clinton and Obama it elevates the status of Obama perhaps making him seem more acceptable in the VP slot.

[Mia T]

That was '98. Their split occurred in 2000, when clinton pardoned the seditious sleaze Marc Rich, but not Leonard Peltier, Geffen's guy.

It would be interesting to see a comparison of the Rich and Geffen money in the clinton coffers to that point....

[Lets Be Frank]

Can you imagine the tongue thrashing Billy Boy is getting for not pardoning Geffen's friend? Yikes!

[leilani]

I had the same initial instincts as you two. Much as those egomaniacs fancying themselves as America's kingmakers like to believe they can manipulate public opinion with their lavish Beverly Hills fundraisers, the reality is that an endorsement from the Hollywood elite is a net liability for a candidate when it comes to the electorate nationally. Lots of democrats and independants in flyover country think they're as arrogant & out-to-lunch as the rest of us do.

Is it possible that this was staged to distance Hillary from Hollyweird for the benefit of mainstream voters? The only problem with our scenario is that Geffen's statement was just so devastatingly accurate.

Because his slam is so dead-on target it vividly reminds everyone of the reasons for Mrs. Clinton's well-earned rep as a compulsive "congenital liar" who reflexively fibs even when it's in her own best interest to tell the truth. Geffen's hit harms her much more than it helps her with the electorate at large because it plucks her biggest liability out from the underneath blanket of media obscurity & elevates it front & center for public scrutiny once again.

So if this indeed was a sneaky machiavellian effort by the Clinton War Room to give Hillary the chance to shake off the "nuts & sluts" stigma of a Hollywood endorsement, it sure seems like a really dumb way to do it. No, I think Geffen has genuinely arrived at the conclusion that he just can't stand the sight of the lying bi!@# anymore.