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Iraqi insurgents use 2nd 'dirty' bomb
AP | 2/21/07 | By BRIAN MURPHY, Associated Press Writer

Posted on 02/21/2007 5:52:48 PM PST by Victor

By BRIAN MURPHY, Associated Press Writer

BAGHDAD, Iraq - Insurgents exploded a truck carrying chlorine gas canisters Wednesday — the second such "dirty" chemical attack in two days — while a U.S. official said ground fire apparently forced the downing of a Black Hawk helicopter. All nine aboard the aircraft were rescued.

The attacks offer a sweeping narrative on evolving tactics by Sunni insurgents who have proved remarkably adaptable.

Military officials worry extremists may have recently gained more access to firepower such as shoulder-fired anti-aircraft rockets and heavy machine guns — and more expertise to use them. The Black Hawk would be at least the eighth U.S. helicopter to crash or be taken down by hostile fire in the past month.

The gas cloud in Baghdad, meanwhile, suggests possible new and coordinated strategies by bombers trying to unleash toxic — and potentially deadly — materials. "Terrorists are using dirty means," said Brig. Gen. Qassim Moussawi, an Iraqi military spokesman.

Lt. Col. Christopher Garver, a U.S. military spokesman, said initial reports indicated the chopper was brought down by "small arms fire and rocket-propelled grenades" north of Baghdad, but gave no further details. All nine aboard were taken away on a rescue helicopter, he said.

In Baghdad, a pickup truck carrying chlorine gas cylinders was blown apart, killing at least five people and sending more than 55 to hospitals gasping for breath and rubbing stinging eyes, police said.

On Tuesday, a bomb planted on a chlorine tanker left more than 150 villagers stricken north of the capital. More than 60 were still under medical care on Wednesday. Chlorine causes respiratory trouble and skin irritation in low levels and possible death with heavy exposure.

In Washington, two Pentagon officials said the tactic has been used at least three times since Jan. 28, when a truck carrying explosives and a chlorine tank blew up in Anbar province. More than a dozen people were reported killed.

A third Pentagon official said the United States has been concerned about Iraqi militants' ability to get weapons like chlorine bombs and use them effectively. But the official cautioned that chlorine bombs are just one threat on a long list of possible attacks that Iraqi fighters may try to carry out.

It was unclear whether the confluence of new insurgent tactics — attacking isolated combat posts, targeting helicopters more intensely and using chlorine bombs — was coincidental or in response to the U.S. troop increase.

W. Patrick Lang, a former official at the Defense Intelligence Agency, said the insurgents are always "seeking to achieve higher levels of effectiveness" and these new tactics are part of the normal "evolution of sophistication."

Lang said trucks filled with chlorine gas are "really quite deadly" because the gas is potent and spreads easily.

Some authorities believe militants could be trying to maximize the panic from their attacks by adding chlorine or other noxious substances.

"It is an indication of maliciousness, a desire to injure and kill innocent people in the vicinity," said Garver, who also predicted militants may begin to launch similar attacks because of the widespread mayhem caused by this week's chlorine clouds.

"If there is a particular success, we'll see copycats. ... They certainly pay attention to what they think is successful," he said.

In Najaf, meanwhile, a suicide car bomber killed at least 13 at a police checkpoint. The attack fit a pattern that's believed to drive much of Iraq's recent violence: Sunni militants seeking to provoke majority Shiites into a full-blown sectarian conflict that would leave Washington's plans in ruins.

It was the first major bombing in more than six months in Najaf, an important Shiite pilgrimage site 100 miles south of Baghdad and also the headquarters of radical Shiite cleric Muqtada al-Sadr, head of the Mahdi Army militia.

The Najaf blast hit while streets were filled with morning shoppers. At least seven of the victims were police and the rest civilians near a checkpoint — part of the city's security cordon that includes Mahdi Army militiamen, who battled U.S. forces in the area in 2004.

More than 40 people were wounded in the blast, which sent body parts and blood over a wide boulevard. Crews stuffed limbs and bits of flesh into cardboard boxes.

In Baghdad, another Mahdi Army center was hit. A car bombing in the teeming Sadr City district killed at least three.

More than 10 people died in blasts across Baghdad — adding to the more than 100 victims of bombings in attacks in and around the capital since Sunday. The toll cast a long shadow over authorities marking the first week of the U.S.-Iraqi security sweeps.

Moussawi, the Iraqi military spokesman, said the campaign to reclaim control of the city "has achieved very important goals despite the expected criminal reactions."

"God willing, the plan will continue to uproot terrorists and outlaws across Baghdad and other areas," he told a news conference. He added that 42 "terrorists" have been killed in the sweeps and more than 250 suspected militants arrested, but gave further details.

An American military spokesman, Maj. Gen. William Caldwell, told a news conference that U.S. and Iraqi forces were focusing on "belts" of extremist activity in Baghdad and suggested talks are ongoing over when and how to move into Sadr City.

It is believed that al-Sadr has ordered his forces not to challenge the security operation up to this point.

"Anytime you can find a political solution instead of a military one it is better," Caldwell said.

Meanwhile, the U.S.-led coalition in Iraq may soon be shrinking.

British Prime Minister Tony Blair said about 1,600 troops will leave Iraq in the coming months if Iraqi forces can secure the southern part of the country. Currently, Britain has about 7,100 soldiers in Iraq. Denmark also announced it would withdraw its 460-member contingent from southern Iraq by August, and Lithuania is "seriously considering" bring home its 53 troops.

The British decision, however, is not likely to seriously shift the power balance in Iraq. The British are stations in the mostly Shiite south and are not directly involved in the sectarian struggles in Baghdad and other parts of Iraq.

A U.S. Marine was killed in fighting in the volatile Anbar province and a soldier was killed by gunfire in a neighborhood of Baghdad, the military said Wednesday.

The Marine was killed Tuesday during combat operations in the insurgent stronghold. The soldier was hit by small arms fire in a northern district of Baghdad on Tuesday, a statement said without giving further details.

At least 3,149 members of the U.S. military have died since the Iraq war started in March 2003, according to an Associated Press count.


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I prefer the smell of napalm...
1 posted on 02/21/2007 5:52:50 PM PST by Victor
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To: Victor

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2 posted on 02/21/2007 5:54:48 PM PST by xcamel (Press to Test, Release to Detonate)
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To: Victor

Michael Moore must be very proud of his "freedom fighters".


3 posted on 02/21/2007 6:13:00 PM PST by BenLurkin
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No, I'm sorry, this can't be true.

There are no weapons of mass destruction in Iraq.

Don't any of you read Newsweek?

Sheesh.


4 posted on 02/21/2007 6:49:21 PM PST by Eccl 10:2 (Pray for the peace of Jerusalem - Ps 122:6)
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To: Victor
Could the left tell me again that terrorists wouldn't use WMD's?
5 posted on 02/21/2007 6:50:26 PM PST by highlander_UW (I don't know what my future holds, but I know Who holds my future)
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Could the left tell me again that terrorists wouldn't use WMD's?

Exactly how broad is the WMD definition going to get? If Chlorine Gas is a WMD, then you're average pool maintenance shack is a WMD storage facility.

6 posted on 02/21/2007 7:23:03 PM PST by Strategerist
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From wikipedia;

"Weapon of mass destruction (WMD) is a term used to describe a weapon with the capacity to indiscriminately kill large numbers of people. The phrase broadly encompasses several areas of weapon synthesis, including nuclear, biological, chemical (NBC) and, increasingly, radiological weapons."

So, yes, it does meet the description.


7 posted on 02/21/2007 7:28:33 PM PST by church16 (“People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence..)
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To: Strategerist
Technically you are correct. These attacks are "expedient uses of Toxic Industrial Chemicals (TICs)".

However, Chlorine was used in WW I by the Germans; subsequently the Geneva Convention and the Hague Convention forbid the use of Chlorine and several other gasses. Legally this may be considered a weapon of mass destruction as defined by international law since it is the use of a listed poison gas in (unconventional) warfare.

If cylinders of Cl were popped open in your neighborhood I think you'd consider it a WMD attack.
8 posted on 02/21/2007 7:30:06 PM PST by DBrow
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To: Victor
The attacks offer a sweeping narrative on evolving tactics by Sunni insurgents who have proved remarkably adaptable.

I wonder if the writer has ever seen "sweeping narratives" in anything our guys have done.

9 posted on 02/21/2007 7:30:07 PM PST by Yardstick
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To: Victor

You are required to provide a working link to this story.

Please give me one and I'll post it at the top.


10 posted on 02/21/2007 7:30:36 PM PST by Admin Moderator
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To: DBrow
If cylinders of Cl were popped open in your neighborhood I think you'd consider it a WMD attack.

So someone opens a cylinder of Cl in my neighborhood it's a WMD attack, but if they set off a truck with a ton of ammonium nitrate it isn't. Gotcha.

So should we be invading every country that has Cl gas?

11 posted on 02/21/2007 7:36:14 PM PST by Strategerist
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Folks, lets not get wacky here.

This is NOT a WMD. This is a chemical attack.

Chemical WMDs are generally persistent agents and chemical weapon Chlorine gas COULD be a WMD attack if it was used in artillery shells that took out a grid in Baghdad or a village.

This is a chemical attack, and almost all of us knew darn well the enemy was capable of it.


12 posted on 02/21/2007 7:41:19 PM PST by American_Centurion (No, I don't trust the government to automatically do the right thing.)
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ANFO is an explosive, and has a local (if devastating) effect. Cl, sarin, tabun, phosgene, cobalt 60 dust, anthrax, and so on cover a wide area, drift with the wind, and are indiscriminate.

ANFO is used in some of our large munitions and don't go much beyond hundreds of yards.

Chlorine drifting in the breeze can cover lots of ground.

Hey, I don't write the definitions, but a BLU143 ANFO blockbuster is not WMD, but the same size device filled with chlorine or mustard or cyclosarin is. As for invading every country with chlorine, if they put it in tanks, drive it into populous areas, and pop them off, you bet. If they disinfect pools and bleach pulp, no.
13 posted on 02/21/2007 7:43:57 PM PST by DBrow
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To: church16

I agree with the definition in the technical sense of indiscriminate, however "large numbers" is extremely subjective.

In a city the size of Bagdad, 1000 would be "large", in a rural village wiping them all out would qualify as "large".

This incident is not large in the statistical sense that a true WMD attack would cause, though it is a war crime without any doubt.


14 posted on 02/21/2007 7:44:57 PM PST by American_Centurion (No, I don't trust the government to automatically do the right thing.)
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To: American_Centurion

Yeah, personally, I think considering anything other than biologicals or a true nuclear fission or fusion (NOT overhyped "dirty bombs") a "WMD" is silly.

Basically, we've reached the point where people want to consider every single substance that is conceivably fatal if inhaled or ingested a "WMD" - which makes the majority of the people on the planet posessors of a WMD.

Cl is a common and crucial industrial chemical that anything above a stone age society needs to function - you're reaching the height of absurdity when people start proclaiming it a WMD.

People are forgetting about the "MASS" in "WMD."


15 posted on 02/21/2007 7:46:17 PM PST by Strategerist
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To: American_Centurion
Yup, see my #8- it's an expedient attack using industrial chemicals, though I feel that by law it may be considered WMD, because of the history of chlorine and the post WW I treaties.

You are correct, this is not like nerve gas or nukes.

I think though if you tried this in the USA, you'd still get charged with a WMD rap, and a terror rap, and "emitting a bad smell going beyond menudo residues" which should be a crime.
16 posted on 02/21/2007 7:47:17 PM PST by DBrow
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To: American_Centurion

For whatever reason the world at large has concluded that dying from inhaling a chemical or being irradiated is somehow clearly worse and far more awful than being burned to death or blown to pieces or shredded with shrapnel.

I'd suggest people step back and really think about that.


17 posted on 02/21/2007 7:48:20 PM PST by Strategerist
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To: Strategerist

I agree.

We look silly arguing "See there are WMDs!"

Educated people remember Colin Powell showing trucks leaving Iraq for Syria, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out WTF was going on.


18 posted on 02/21/2007 7:49:05 PM PST by American_Centurion (No, I don't trust the government to automatically do the right thing.)
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Don't forget the "classic" nerve gasses in multi-kilo quantities or a kilo of anthrax, or gram of botulin, or smallpox. These would be considered WMD and would kill many people.
19 posted on 02/21/2007 7:49:26 PM PST by DBrow
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To: DBrow

No doubt you would be charged as a terrorist, as you should be.


20 posted on 02/21/2007 7:50:09 PM PST by American_Centurion (No, I don't trust the government to automatically do the right thing.)
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