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1 posted on 02/21/2007 4:43:01 PM PST by Jim Robinson
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To: Jim Robinson

Anchor babies shouldn't be American citizens.


2 posted on 02/21/2007 4:44:51 PM PST by mtbopfuyn (I think the border is kind of an artificial barrier - San Antonio councilwoman Patti Radle)
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To: Jim Robinson
Instead, the bond went to a baby in Gainesville, Georgia, described by her mother as “an American all the way.”

A real life nephew of my Uncle Sam, born on the first of January.

3 posted on 02/21/2007 4:46:15 PM PST by highimpact (Abortion is a voluntary human sacrifice at the altar of convenience.)
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To: Jim Robinson

"Dr. Wilke’s statement, which conflates U.S. post-9/11 fears about Muslims with nativist fears about the loss of Aryan national identity,..."

Oh baloney.

I'm the grandchild of Italian immigrants. Nothing Aryan about me.

But I still want folks who come to the United States to do so in accord with our laws. We permit a large number of LEGAL immigrants every year to come live here. We have a right to regulate, control, and limit immigration to the United States.


4 posted on 02/21/2007 4:46:30 PM PST by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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"Amnesty for lawbreakers is not the answer, and it’s time to rethink birthright citizenship.... We need to allocate far more resources, both in terms of money and manpower, to securing our borders and coastlines here at home. This is the most critical task before us, both in terms of immigration problems and the threat of foreign terrorists. Unless and until we secure our borders, illegal immigration and the problems associated with it will only increase." – Ron Paul
5 posted on 02/21/2007 4:46:40 PM PST by OrthodoxPresbyterian (We are Unworthy Servants; We have only done Our Duty -- Luke 17:10)
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To: Jim Robinson

There should be no such thing as an "Anchor baby" - Only babies born to parents here legally (legal resident or citizen) for more then 12 continuous months, and without evidence of receiving public support or assistance.


7 posted on 02/21/2007 4:49:23 PM PST by xcamel (Press to Test, Release to Detonate)
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“If you kill 44 million of your potential workers, it’s not too surprising we would be desperate for workers.”

I am a true pro-lifer, but the above is an incredibly specious argument.

8 posted on 02/21/2007 4:50:36 PM PST by buccaneer81 (Bob Taft has soiled the family name for the next century.)
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To: Jim Robinson
Clearly, then, immigrant rights has become a reproductive justice issue.

"Reproductive justice" to these people means killing all the babies except the ones born to their favorite victim groups. Here in Atlanta, there's a group called GALEO (Georgia Association of Latino Elected Officials) that has organized a Latino Forum to push illegal immigration. They pretend to stand with the Catholic Church, but it's curious to see where they hold their public gatherings:

Join us to learn more about the Georgia Latino Forum! Light food & beverages will be served.

Location:

Atlanta Feminist Women’s Health Center
1924 Cliff Valley Way, NE
Atlanta, GA 30329
Tel. 404-248-5445

Parking is available across the street at Unitarian Universalist Congregation of Atlanta.*

The Feminist Women's Health Center is, of course, our town's most notorious abortion clinic. It's frightening even to imagine what sort of food and beverages might be offered there.
9 posted on 02/21/2007 4:54:10 PM PST by madprof98 ("moritur et ridet" - salvianus)
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To: Jim Robinson

You should have put a barf alert on this one.

Just more lefty/neocon open borders anti-white crapola.


10 posted on 02/21/2007 4:54:50 PM PST by outdriving (Diversity is a nice place to visit, but I wouldn't want to live there.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Thanks for posting this. I'm pleased to see the attention that illegal immigration is getting.


12 posted on 02/21/2007 4:57:28 PM PST by Kevmo (The first labor of Huntercles: Defeating the 3-headed RINO)
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To: Jim Robinson
Several studies have shown that immigrants -- documented and undocumented -- access social welfare services at much lower rates than U.S.-born citizens.

While this is probably a correct statistic, if you compare illegal immigrants and/or illegal immigrants to citizens who are not black, I suspect the results are reversed

15 posted on 02/21/2007 5:02:46 PM PST by staytrue
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Social justice is an euphemism for "Stick-em-up!"


21 posted on 02/21/2007 5:09:28 PM PST by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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These danged trolls who post & run are getting worse & worse around here. I ought to report you to JR!


23 posted on 02/21/2007 5:13:25 PM PST by ApplegateRanch (Islam: a Satanically Transmitted Disease, spread by unprotected intimate contact with the Koranus.)
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To: Jim Robinson
Give me a break anchor babies should not be citizens. Hell many Mexicans that are expecting will cross the border close to their due date and claim they are going shopping just to get their kids citizenship. I say send them back and do not allow pregnant Hispanics to cross the borders
27 posted on 02/21/2007 5:29:14 PM PST by Shots (Loose Lips sink ships.........)
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14th Amendment

Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

The extremely important part to focus on here is "...subject to the jurisdiction thereof." This is fairly ambiguous, and has been interpreted without much argument to preclude the extension of jus soli to children born of:
- foreign diplomats
- enemy forces in hostile occupation of the USA

OK, what about the children of illegals? That question was left fairly open in the eyes of the SC until Plyler v. Doe (1982), which did not explicitly rule on the anchor baby issue (though footnotes 10 and 19 may be of interest). Later judges saw some more of those emanations and penumbras - in particular, because the court ruled that the children of illegal aliens were "within the jurisdiction" of their state of residence, application of the 14th Amendment was sufficient to extend citizenship rights implicitly. Yup, this was not something debated on its own by the court. It was spliced in basically as an aside to the main course. Isn't it grand how any member of the SC can just add all sorts of crap to books? You have to wonder what exactly the "jurisdiction" clause within the 14th was doing there in the first place if it is supposed to be so flaccid a condition. Kind of like the careful wording of the 2nd and how entire phrases therein are interpreted to be entirely meaningless by ACLU-type legal "scholars".

Anyway, what to do about it. Because of a variety of problems I am sure everyone can imagine, some nations which once had jus soli citizenship rights instead changed to a hybrid system incorporating jus sanguinis (right of blood) elements where citizenship is conferred to children born in the country only if one of the parents is a citizen of that country. Ireland did it just a few years ago.

30 posted on 02/21/2007 5:38:49 PM PST by M203M4
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To: Chani

for later consumption


34 posted on 02/21/2007 6:01:15 PM PST by Chani (Happy cows make good cheese.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Anchor babies ARE U.S. citizens. Says so right in the Constitution. It is also the wise policy. Imagine that citizenship didn't come with birth. You could get to a situation where people who had lived here for generations never got citizenship. That's a recipe for trouble.


35 posted on 02/21/2007 6:15:15 PM PST by lostlakehiker (Not So Fast There)
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Has the SCOTUS ever ruled on the children of illegal immigrants? It is high time they did.


40 posted on 02/21/2007 6:35:51 PM PST by stephenjohnbanker (Misery loves miserable company.......ask any liberal. Hunter in 08!)
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"Anti-immigrant"--here we go again. :eyes rolling:

Wah, wah, wah. Poor mistreated lawbreakers.
L-A-W-B-R-E-A-K-E-R-S. They should not be rewarded for breaking the law, regardless of the circumstances!

If we don't stop this slippery slope, next thing you know, bank robbers will need forgiveness because they were just trying to pay their rent!! /sarc off


42 posted on 02/21/2007 6:39:53 PM PST by pillut48 (CJ in TX (Bible Thumper and Proud!))
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