Posted on 02/21/2007 9:07:52 AM PST by Sonora
Talk about premature..........................
bingo
lol
I'll use your comment as a proxy for all the silly commenters.
You all act like there is some dark room somewhere with a few annointed "wise men" who are going to send up a puff of red smoke and walk out with our nominee.
"they" is "us". We are the people who will go to the poll, or attend the caucuses, or vote in the mass meetings, that will pick the representatives that will go to the nominating convention and pick our presidential candidate.
I can no more get "they" to do what you want than you can. If you can't convince a majority of the people in our party to vote for the candidate you support, it's not really their fault, it's your candidate's fault for not being able to sell him or herself to the voters.
Meanwhile, at this stage of a primary battle, you won't find a true supporter of a candidate who isn't pretending to throw a hissy fit when other candidates are mentioned. It's all part of the strategy, the "if you don't do what I want I'll throw a tantrum and take my vote home with me".
But you certainly wouldn't vote for Gulliani simply because I told you to "or else". So why do you expect a Gulliani supporter to give in to your tirades? Why would any person supporting a candidate give in to such threats?
Or should be pick our next nominee based on which one has supporters that are most likely to turn psychotically destructive? Frankly, I'm not sure I want a candidate that attracts those kind of people.
I've been here two years and you just taught me that I can turn off the side bar. Thanks.
Most welcome. I like all my screen realestate for the text of articles etc.
I assume you checked out the rest of your preferences available on that page! LOL.
Have a blessed week and fun FREEPING.
Yes, and thanks again. I actually had set a few preferences before, just never saw that.
Your post also triggered me to check my date, which is how I realised that tomorrow is my 2-year anniversary.
Republicans have had a bit of a bad run since I signed up here. I hope there is no causation :-)
The odds appear pretty high that the puppet masters are not going to allow anyone with any chance of winning who will be anything close to the kind of conservative we need.
It would STILL be FAR WORSE TO HAVE SHRILLERY IN POWER THAN ANY OF THE REST ON THE SCENE.
Maybe you would enjoy a jet to hell instead of a donkey or a model-T. I'll take slower for our beleagured Republic any day.
I am tired of voting for the liberal jackass who happens to have an (R) after their name simply because I fear the boogie man with a (D) after their name. I want a POINT/COUNTERPOINT type of an election. Two competing visions. I don't see that contrast between liberal Republicans like Rudy and liberal Dems like Hillary. There is way too much overlap. I think that the Dems will overreach if they get the Presidency, just as they always do. When that happens it is an opportunity to swing the political pendulum back our way, but only if we have a competing vision. If Hilary defeats Rudy (which I believe she would), then when the overreach happens America will still view his ideology as representing the Republican alternative. And it just isn't different enough to change the direction we are heading in.
If we are going to lose, I'd rather lose with Newt laying down some solid points and propaganda to fortify our future and change our direction when the Dems go too far. I would actually prefer that to a Rudy win because, in my view, there would be more longterm damage from a Rudy win. Yes, that is right, I will say it loud: I DON'T FEAR HILARY CLINTON. She has a tin ear, a sloppy mind, and an overreaching base that controls the party. She will not do well. Republicans will actually fight her liberal policies and demagogue it to their base, as they should. We can contain her. Rudy, on the other hand, will peel off enough "Republican" support to actually get his liberal policies established, much like Bush has.
And no, I am not forgetting about the war on terror. That is doomed to fail until the American public understands how essential it is to our future. And I don't think Rudy can make them believers. With the media we have, nothing short of another terrorist attack that kills 5000+ on our soil will get the public on board.
---"The House of Representatives passed a resolution Saturday (Joint Resolution 23) which condemned "any acts of violence or discrimination against any Americans, including Arab Americans and Muslim Americans," and called on the FBI to investigate hate crimes to assure that "the civil rights and civil liberties of all Americans, including Arab-Americans and Muslims, should be protected at all times, particularly during times of domestic and international turmoil."
The resolution, introduced by Senators Tom Harkin (D-IA), Orrin Hatch R-UT), Russell Feingold (D-WI), and Patrick Leahy (D-VT), echoed sentiments expressed in the wake of the backlash by Bush, his father and New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani, that racist attacks on Muslims and Arabs living in America will not be tolerated.
(http://www.islamonline.net/english/news/2001-09/18/article1.shtml)
Giuliani then ordered NY city police to aggressively pursue allegations of hate crimes against Arabs and Muslims. In other words, he gave them special treatment and protection."---
Your post is very reflective of the attitude displayed within the poll - you would rather let the Presidency go then to vote for a social R - I simply think that that is what is going to happen as no one running on the R side is the perfect candidate for this group and there appears that a huge percentage of posters are unwilling to reach a compromise - now, how sad is that?
I think you underestimate the evil within and about Shrillery and the death grip it has on her values, goals, motives.
. . . and the damage she could do as President.
I think you underestimate that by a huge margin.
Jim, is there some sort of ad hoc group that could brainstorm within FR on this troublesome problem? I think this needs addressed much more impactfully than has been done so far. And, I think the earlier the better.
Actually, I've got Rudy in mind for my vote - he's far from perfect, but I'm in a compromise mode - I just don't what a Democrat and let's face it, please, the Democrats are gathering the wagons on this one - we are going to lose the White House without Rudy on the ticket - he can take down Hillary, big time.
Wake Up People Now or you will wake up later with Hillary and Bill back in power in the White House, possibly for eight years.
PING re the below:
I think you underestimate the evil within and about Shrillery and the death grip it has on her values, goals, motives.
. . . and the damage she could do as President.
I think you underestimate that by a huge margin.
Jim, is there some sort of ad hoc group that could brainstorm within FR on this troublesome problem? I think this needs addressed much more impactfully than has been done so far. And, I think the earlier the better.
Here isn't a Reagan running, right? - so, go with the choices or get a Reagan type to run - are you willing to give Hillary eight White House years - during the terror war just to wait for another Reagan? That seems insane to me.
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