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You wrote, "The hell with honor. We need to destroy the enemy as long as it takes... The polls are in the tank, so who cares. Get as many as possible."

I never thought Vice President Cheney would lose his nerve--or his spine. I'm hoping it was a thoughtless gaffe, not Nixonian codespeak for ignominious defeat. Republican leadership better start talking 'Peace with victory,' or they'll undermine morale more than the Democrats could hope for with their 'slow bleed' strategy.

I despair sometimes. It seems that a sizable proportion of our national leaders, left and right, are either actively conniving to arrange a defeat or are frantically attempting to cut political losses. I think many on both sides badly, tragically misread the American people, who want to win and who know victory is possible, and who are evidently made of sterner stuff than our feckless leadership.

The way to win is to hunt down and kill the enemy, and keep killing him until he is dead or knows he is beaten. It means getting your hands dirty--or bloody, as the case may be. War is an altogether messy, uncertain business: always a roll of the dice, never a sure thing, and not for the faint-hearted.

I voted for this President. I believe in this President. I can't believe he would ever condone a Nixon-like 'peace with honor' solution.

here is the only people that have tried getting, or concerned with leaving Iraq with Honor:

George Tenet: "One of the Greatest CIA directors ever."
Gen. Casey: "One of the Greatest CENTCOM's ever. Heck, lets give him a promotion."
Sec. Rumsfeld: "One of the Greatest SecDef's ever."
Paul Wolfowitz: "One of the Greatest..."I forgot what he used to be. He was the one that when asked how many American's have died, he had no clue. He should have had a counter on his desk.

Seems the only people that are trying to leave Iraq with honor are those that have mismanaged it. When its all said and done, it will be the soldier that has honor, and he/she doesn't need to talk about it, in hopes of getting it.

Hopefully Petraeus cleans house. Bush needs to clean house. His own house, and get a war cabinet back in for the final 1 1/2 years of his administration left. He literally has nothing electorially to lose. Have Bush go ask the soldiers in Walter Reed on whether it was right to not have 300,000 troops go in, versus the 150K that rumsfeld pushed over his generals heads. I wonder what that soldier would say and whether he feels like he has honor. Honor in who? His leaders, or his fellow americans for their lack of will to crush a sect of people that wants to destroy us all? Does anyone doubt that Saddam tried to assassinate ex Pres. Bush? Am I talknig to a wall?

I never thought Vice President Cheney would lose his nerve--or his spine

If you'll read the article again, it says "FINISH THE MISSION and leave with honor."

The media distorts what gets said to their own advantage. In this case they distorted the title of the article. Technically, it is a true title because Cheney did say, "leave with honor," but it is incomplete.

It makes all the difference in the world to add the part about finishing the mission.