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Ron Paul, the Real Republican? (Announcing the Great Ron Paul Ping List)
Fox News ^ | February 20, 2007 | Radley Balko

Posted on 02/20/2007 8:59:49 AM PST by OrthodoxPresbyterian

Ron Paul, the Real Republican?

Tuesday, February 20, 2007
By Radley Balko

When you read about a vote in Congress that goes something like 412-1, odds are pretty good that the sole "nay" came from Rep. Ron Paul, R-Texas. He so consistently votes against widely popular bills, in fact, that the Washington Post recently gave him the moniker "Congressman 'No.'"

Paul isn't a reflexive contrarian--he doesn't oppose just to oppose. Rather, he has a core set of principles that guide him. They happen to be the same principles envisioned by the framers of the U.S. Constitution: limited government, federalism, free trade and commerce -- with a premium on peace.

When most members of Congress see a bill for the first time, they immediately judge the bill on its merits, or if you're more cynical, they determine what the political interests that support them will think of it, or how it might benefit their constituents.

For Paul, the vast majority of bills don't get that far. He first asks, "Does the Constitution authorize Congress to pass this law?" Most of the time, the answer to that question is "no." And so Paul votes accordingly.

This hasn't won him many friends in Congress, or, for that matter, his own party. It hasn't won him influential committee assignments or powerful chairmanships, either. Those are generally handed out to the party animals who vote as they're told. An incorruptible man of principle in a corrupt body almost utterly devoid of principle, Paul is often a caucus of one.

Paul recently announced his intentions to run for president in 2008. For the few of us who still care about limited government, individual rights, and a sensible foreign policy, Paul's candidacy is terrific news....Continue reading

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To: bcsco
I suppose as a good Missouri Synod Lutheran my support wouldn't be wanted anyway.

Your support would be quite welcome. Heck, Missouri Synod Lutherans are good Absolute Predestinarians, like Calvinists.

Are you saying you'd like to sign up for Ron Paul?

401 posted on 02/20/2007 2:04:35 PM PST by OrthodoxPresbyterian (We are Unworthy Servants; We have only done Our Duty -- Luke 17:10)
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To: capt. norm
Good grief, if Ron Paul hired the likes of these two (members of his office 'in crowd') to work for his campaign....it's already doomed.

According to OrthodoxPresbyterian's post #393 to me, he's not on his staff. But his post sure reads that way. Sloppy writing. I think he's getting frustrated that everyone didn't just roll over and sing praises to Paul.

I'll take him at his word that he's not on his staff. But who knows. His claim not to be could also be cover to make up for an inadvertent slip. I've read enough of his stuff to strongly question his veracity.

402 posted on 02/20/2007 2:06:24 PM PST by bcsco
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To: OrthodoxPresbyterian
Take my word, your tactics today have weakened his campaign...not helped it.

His vote on the non-binding resolution put the nail in his coffin and all your spinning and half-truths today have only made it worse.

It's not a good idea to try and push his candidacy right after he made a huge blunder. The damage is done and he is doomed. If you don't think so YET, meet me here after the election and we'll see if you got it right (or at least have a lengthy list of excuses).

403 posted on 02/20/2007 2:07:59 PM PST by capt. norm (Liberalism = cowardice disguised as tolerance.)
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To: OrthodoxPresbyterian
Are you saying you'd like to sign up for Ron Paul?

Hell no!

Don't ever ping me or you and I and the moderator will be going around, and I won't lose!!!

404 posted on 02/20/2007 2:08:00 PM PST by bcsco
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To: dynoman
Then what about Afghanistan? It is a country too.

True, but Ron Paul voted for a Resolution advising the President to go after whomever was responsible for 9-11, since nobody was 100% certain exactly which state actors or non-state actors were directly responsible.

The President determined that the Taliban government of Afghanistan was one of the responsible parties, and so "went after" them as instructed by the Resolution. However, various Non-State actors were also involved; and as Ron Paul stated, it's difficult to imagine how to Declare War on a Non-Country. So, Ron Paul supported a Resolution which would authorize military force against Non-State actors as well.

405 posted on 02/20/2007 2:10:54 PM PST by OrthodoxPresbyterian (We are Unworthy Servants; We have only done Our Duty -- Luke 17:10)
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To: jmc813
You don't consider OB/GYNs to be real doctors?

That's beside the point. The subject of his doctorate is irrelevant with respect to the subject at hand.

406 posted on 02/20/2007 2:12:53 PM PST by AmishDude (It doesn't matter whom you vote for. It matters who takes office.)
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To: bcsco
My Ping List is for supporters of Ron Paul. If you don't want to be on that list, I won't put you on that list.

You just seemed dismayed that you might not be accepted, as a Lutheran. I wanted to offer you my warm assurance that your concerns were unwarranted.

best, OP :-)

407 posted on 02/20/2007 2:13:06 PM PST by OrthodoxPresbyterian (We are Unworthy Servants; We have only done Our Duty -- Luke 17:10)
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To: OrthodoxPresbyterian
Ron Paul a bloody surrender monkey. He endangered the hero's in Iraq and voted with the other surrender monkeys.

Ron Paul = NO

Hey Ron ....never never never ever go against our brave fighting men and woman......you are never never never ever gonna get our support you surrender monkey. Got it?

408 posted on 02/20/2007 2:13:42 PM PST by free_life
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To: OrthodoxPresbyterian

Ok, thanks. I look forward to seeing if his campaign can get some steam.


409 posted on 02/20/2007 2:15:56 PM PST by Turbopilot (iumop ap!sdn w,I 'aw dlaH)
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To: AmishDude
That's beside the point. The subject of his doctorate is irrelevant with respect to the subject at hand.

Fair enough, but it does show that he is at least intelligent enough to understand the plain meaning of the words of the Constitution, unlike most of the morons on Capitol Hill.

410 posted on 02/20/2007 2:16:00 PM PST by jmc813 (Rudy Giuliani as the Republican nominee is like Martin Luther being Pope.)
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To: OrthodoxPresbyterian
You just seemed dismayed that you might not be accepted, as a Lutheran. I wanted to offer you my warm assurance that your concerns were unwarranted.

I wasn't dismayed. I was simply sarcastic without the /s tag. Your comments about all the Calvinists on his staff being the in crowd was pretty telling, and worthy of sarcasm.

411 posted on 02/20/2007 2:18:14 PM PST by bcsco
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To: capt. norm
Take my word, your tactics today have weakened his campaign...not helped it. His vote on the non-binding resolution put the nail in his coffin and all your spinning and half-truths today have only made it worse.

You, and all those who oppose Ron Paul, would be opposing him regardless of when I posted a Thread advocating his campaign.

You're upset that I am correctly pointing out that the current Government of Iraq is dominated by radical Islamic Terrorists. It weakens your ability to smear Paul as an "appeaser". You don't much like having your cheap, dishonest straw man arguments emasculated.

However, those of us who recognize that it is NOT in the US National Interest to spend hundreds of billions of dollars and thousands of lives to support a Government dominated by the same Islamic Terrorists who attacked our Embassies and killed 241 US Marines in Beirut, are signing up to support Ron Paul. And, we'll be working together in the months ahead to sign up our families, friends, neighbors....

There's almost a year till the first Primary. I'm just helping Ron Paul supporters get organized for the grass roots campaign ahead.

See you in the Primaries.

412 posted on 02/20/2007 2:21:45 PM PST by OrthodoxPresbyterian (We are Unworthy Servants; We have only done Our Duty -- Luke 17:10)
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To: Turbopilot
Ok, thanks. I look forward to seeing if his campaign can get some steam.

I'll be sure to keep you in the loop, best I can.

Best, OP

413 posted on 02/20/2007 2:23:08 PM PST by OrthodoxPresbyterian (We are Unworthy Servants; We have only done Our Duty -- Luke 17:10)
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To: OrthodoxPresbyterian
The biggest loser in this thread is Ron Paul who should have 'laid low' until the non-binding resolution "show" that he helped Nancy Pelosi and John Murtha stage blew over.

Thanks to you, it didn't blow over but you helped it start to 'boil over' with your innuendo and rubber-stamp repeats of liberal-composed half-truths.

The old saying is that when you find yourself in a hole, stop digging. You've done enough damage to his campaign that I am now feeling sorry for him having such pitiful backers.

414 posted on 02/20/2007 2:23:35 PM PST by capt. norm (Liberalism = cowardice disguised as tolerance.)
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To: bcsco
I wasn't dismayed. I was simply sarcastic without the /s tag. Your comments about all the Calvinists on his staff being the in crowd was pretty telling, and worthy of sarcasm.

You wouldn't feel happy for your fellow co-religionists if a Candidate you supported had a penchant for hiring Missouri Synod Lutherans? Thought they were good people, liked their honesty and work ethic, that sort of thing?

What would be wrong with feeling happy for your fellow Missouri Synod Lutherans?

415 posted on 02/20/2007 2:25:12 PM PST by OrthodoxPresbyterian (We are Unworthy Servants; We have only done Our Duty -- Luke 17:10)
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To: capt. norm
The biggest loser in this thread is Ron Paul who should have 'laid low' until the non-binding resolution "show" that he helped Nancy Pelosi and John Murtha stage blew over. Thanks to you, it didn't blow over but you helped it start to 'boil over' with your innuendo and rubber-stamp repeats of liberal-composed half-truths. The old saying is that when you find yourself in a hole, stop digging. You've done enough damage to his campaign that I am now feeling sorry for him having such pitiful backers.

You're just upset that I am correctly pointing out that the current Government of Iraq is dominated by radical Islamic Terrorists. It weakens your ability to smear Paul as an "appeaser". You don't much like having your cheap, dishonest straw man arguments emasculated.

416 posted on 02/20/2007 2:26:38 PM PST by OrthodoxPresbyterian (We are Unworthy Servants; We have only done Our Duty -- Luke 17:10)
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To: OrthodoxPresbyterian
Except for one name, you haven't listed all the 'convicted terrorists' you claim to be in control of the Iraqi government.

Until you do that, you have no credibility here.

417 posted on 02/20/2007 2:26:41 PM PST by Pistolshot (Condi 2008.<------added January 2004. Remember you heard it here first)
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To: OrthodoxPresbyterian
You're upset that I am correctly pointing out that the current Government of Iraq is dominated by radical Islamic Terrorists.

Yes, keep telling yourself that. Most of us saw through that set of twisted facts and half-truths generously supplied from liberal sources.

By making a big issue out of it, a lot of people who did not realize he was one of the 17 surrender monkeys, now are fully aware of it.

I'm waiting to see how much more damage you can do to him.

418 posted on 02/20/2007 2:28:15 PM PST by capt. norm (Liberalism = cowardice disguised as tolerance.)
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To: Pistolshot
Fair enough criticism -- although I personally believe that Terrorists who are self-confessed attackers of Americans certainly deserve to be Convicted (as at least one Ruling Government Iraqi MP already has been) and are unworthy of our support. And, the ruling Al Dawa Party has openly claimed responsibility for terrorist attcks on Americans.

So, I'll say it this way: "Iraqi Government is now a Government dominated by self-confessed Islamic Terrorists"

Would you agree that an Islamic Party which has openly claimed Responsibility for their attacks on Americans are, at the very least, "self-confessed Islamic Terrorists"?

419 posted on 02/20/2007 2:28:39 PM PST by OrthodoxPresbyterian (We are Unworthy Servants; We have only done Our Duty -- Luke 17:10)
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To: capt. norm

See you in the Primaries. :-)


420 posted on 02/20/2007 2:29:01 PM PST by OrthodoxPresbyterian (We are Unworthy Servants; We have only done Our Duty -- Luke 17:10)
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