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Ramos attorney calls for mistrial
WorldNetDaily.com ^ | Fevbruary 20, 2007 | Jerome R. Corsi

Posted on 02/20/2007 2:31:57 AM PST by Man50D

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1 posted on 02/20/2007 2:31:59 AM PST by Man50D
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To: calcowgirl

Border agent ping!


2 posted on 02/20/2007 2:33:21 AM PST by Man50D (Fair Tax , you earn it , you keep it!)
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To: Man50D

These men should have been pardoned.


3 posted on 02/20/2007 2:33:37 AM PST by kinoxi
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To: kinoxi

Agreed, at least. They should have been given some sort of award.


4 posted on 02/20/2007 2:49:29 AM PST by SoldierMedic (The measure of a man is what he does with power -Pittacus)
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To: kinoxi

These men should have been pardoned.


Yes, and Sutton should lose his job. He sounds like the Duke prosecuter.


5 posted on 02/20/2007 2:55:51 AM PST by freedomfiter2 (Duncan Hunter: pro-life, pro-2nd Amendment, pro-border control, pro-family)
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To: SoldierMedic

"some sort of award"

Like suttons salary for the nest 25 years.


6 posted on 02/20/2007 2:56:17 AM PST by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like what you say))
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To: freedomfiter2
This is becoming an ever widening scandal and still, President Bush or his advisors are slow on the uptake. What is starting to emerge is a story of two men who have been deprived of their civil rights under color of authority. This memo, coupled with the severe beating of one of the agents, justifies the need to appoint a special prosecutor who needs to start questioning Sutton and Atty General Gonzales.

I understand President Bush's loyalty to his appointees. But that loyalty should only carry so much weight, and if it becomes clear that he has been deceived, he needs to display the appropriate anger and fire people if they have deceived him, or acted in a manner that is unethical. It is time for President Bush to intervene in the case of these two agents and Gilmer Hernandez. It is indeed becoming to look like another "Duke" case, but this time it involves the Feds.

7 posted on 02/20/2007 3:34:10 AM PST by Enterprise (Drop pork bombs on the Islamofascist wankers. Praise the Lord and pass the hammunition.)
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To: kinoxi

Pardoned hell, they should never have been charged.


8 posted on 02/20/2007 3:40:32 AM PST by Joe Boucher (an enemy of islam)
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To: Joe Boucher

They were charged.


9 posted on 02/20/2007 3:43:21 AM PST by kinoxi
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To: Man50D
The second full paragraph of the DHS memo filed by DHS Special Agent Christopher Sanchez April 12, 2005, states:

Investigation disclosed that the following BP agents were at the location of the shooting incident, assisted in destroying evidence of the shooting, and/or knew/heard about the shooting: Oscar Juarez; Arturo Vasquez; Jose Mendoza; David Jacquez; Lance Medrano; Lorenzo Yrigoyen; Rene Mendez; Robert Arnold; and Jonathan Richards.

The fact that Arnold and Richards were given promotions for participating in Johnny Sutton's treacherous prosecution indicates the involvement of others at a higher pay grade in this treachery. I wonder who that could have been????

10 posted on 02/20/2007 4:05:20 AM PST by Uncle Chip (TRUTH : Ignore it. Deride it. Allegorize it. Interpret it. But you can't ESCAPE it.)
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To: kinoxi

They wouldnt need a pardon if the case handt been tried in the first place,and the evidence says they shouldnt have been.


11 posted on 02/20/2007 4:14:55 AM PST by sgtbono2002 (I will forgive Jane Fonda, when the Jews forgive Hitler.)
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You are correct.


12 posted on 02/20/2007 4:16:35 AM PST by kinoxi
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To: Ajnin; Arizona Carolyn; Calpernia; CAluvdubya; christynsoldier; Cyropaedia; dennisw; Digger; ...

Ping!


13 posted on 02/20/2007 4:30:25 AM PST by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: kinoxi

I disagree...they will be forever tarnished with a pardon.

What they need is a re-trial to clear their name with a not guilty verdict. They need to be released pending the retrial.

Those making false testimony need to be prosecuted and those testifying in Congressional committees falsely need to be charged.

Unfortunately, misrepresentation is now the coin of the realm, as people are not accused of perjury unless they are high republican officials.


14 posted on 02/20/2007 5:08:09 AM PST by LachlanMinnesota
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To: Enterprise
President Bush or his advisors are slow on the uptake.

Maybe they will take notice after losing the Presidency to the Democrats in 2008...
15 posted on 02/20/2007 6:21:19 AM PST by P-40 (Al Qaeda was working in Iraq. They were just undocumented.)
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To: Uncle Chip
While the DHS report places all at the scene, it says nothing about when they arrived at the scene, before or after the shooting.

The trial transcript indicates that Arnold and Richards arrived afterwards and were not informed as to what took place. The transcripts indicate that Vasquez also arrived after the shooting but he was told what happened and assisted Compean in disposing of the shell casings.

To put it another way, those up the chain of command were not told and those down the chain of command were told.

The defense attorney is not going to get anywhere with this argument.

16 posted on 02/20/2007 7:07:29 AM PST by Ben Ficklin
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To: calcowgirl
I'd like to hear more from Mary Stillinger. Especially why she made that stipulation, whether the defense was given all the prosecution's ballistics reports, what the ballistics said, and whether the defense had their own ballistics test done.
17 posted on 02/20/2007 7:20:59 AM PST by Iwo Jima ("Close the border. Then we'll talk.")
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To: Man50D

Even if the prosecutor had shown them the memo, you can bet that the corrupt Judge--who refused to allow testimony about the horrendous criminal past of the chief prosecution witness--would certainly have refused to allow it into evidence. The traitor Alberto Gonzales made sure this game was rigged from the very start.


18 posted on 02/20/2007 7:59:40 AM PST by montag813
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To: freedomfiter2
Yes, and Sutton should lose his job. He sounds like the Duke prosecuter.

I've actually heard someone on talk radio refer to the "Nifonging" of Compean and Ramos. As each new piece of info comes out, it's looking more and more apt.

19 posted on 02/20/2007 8:01:05 AM PST by John Jorsett (scam never sleeps)
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To: kinoxi
We are aware of that, but at most they should have been disciplined, not tried as criminals for doing their jobs.
20 posted on 02/20/2007 8:18:43 AM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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