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To: neverdem
Sure, many on today's left are irrational, hypocritical, self-righteous, their nostrums and remedies ridiculous, their understanding of world problems shallow in the extreme.

Many...but not all. Very large numbers of lefties work very hard at productive and difficult jobs, raise decent families, and participate with intelligence and understanding in communal life.

Meanwhile, many on the Right refuse to recognize that traditional culture sucks, that it's brought us intolerance and war and death for centuries...and dysfuncional individuals and families galore (as well as pederast priests and other sickos).

7 posted on 02/19/2007 6:20:48 PM PST by liberallarry
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To: liberallarry
refuse to recognize that traditional culture sucks,

Works for me! :-)

19 posted on 02/19/2007 7:30:47 PM PST by x_plus_one (As long as we pretend to not be fighting Iran in Iraq, we can't pretend to win the war.)
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To: liberallarry; neverdem
many on the Right refuse to recognize that traditional culture sucks, that it's brought us intolerance and war and death for centuries...and dysfuncional individuals and families galore (as well as pederast priests and other sickos)

Waiiiiit a minute. We are all intolerant of things and must be. But some are intolerant of people based on their melanin instead of their character and their corresponding actions. Some are intolerant of those who speak truth to evildoers and liars.

War? Democracies and true Republics don't war against each other--totalitarians, fascists and megalomaniacs start wars and the sleeping giants awaken when sufficiently stirred.

Family Values? It's the Left that seeks to corrupt the sexual innocence of toddlers, destroy families and impose lame appeal upon appeal in efforts to prevent the swift sure capital punishment of pederast 'priests' and their ilk -- who are the as the evil fruits of your Italian buddy Antonio Gramsci.
20 posted on 02/19/2007 7:33:19 PM PST by The Spirit Of Allegiance (Public Employees: Honor Your Oaths! Defend the Constitution from Enemies--Foreign and Domestic!)
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To: liberallarry

IBTZ


22 posted on 02/19/2007 7:38:47 PM PST by Albion Wilde (...where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom. -2 Cor 3:17)
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To: liberallarry
Meanwhile, many on the Right refuse to recognize that traditional culture sucks, that it's brought us intolerance and war and death for centuries.

By "traditional culture", what exactly do you mean? And which traditional culture? Chinese eastern? Middle eastern? European western? American western? North African? Or do you mean all of them?

Maybe traditional European monarchies or European Socialism? How about traditional American capitalism?

Which of the above has brought the most death? Are the Americans that died in WW2 or Korea any more dead than the 15-20 million murdered and starved by Stalin or Mao? How about the 2-3 million Cambodians murdered in the mid 70s?

Are those that died when the Moors overran Spain more dead than the 50 million that have died from malaria thanks to Silent Spring & good intentions?

What "nontraditional" cultures have thus far demonstrated themselves to be superior to American capitalism in regards to the quality of life for the most people?

Ah well, enough of that. But I am trying to make a point, and am not being hostile.

I would also submit to you that being able to present loony people from the right is not evidence of a failed outlook any more than presenting honest, hard working people on the left makes liberal socialism superior. Both extremes of people can be found in any walk of life.

I also suggest that unless one has a way of altering the nature of man and mankind, wars will continue. I further suggest that more people die from poverty, hunger, disease and natural disasters where there is less freedom, not more.

32 posted on 02/19/2007 8:07:33 PM PST by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s......you weren't really there)
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To: liberallarry
traditional culture sucks

True, but not as much as the one you wish to replace it.

73 posted on 03/01/2007 8:33:18 AM PST by CharacterCounts
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