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Why So Much Media Focus on Mitt Romney's Mormon Faith?
Fox News ^ | 2/19/07 | Sevenbak

Posted on 02/19/2007 4:52:58 PM PST by sevenbak

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To: WKB

Bless you! ... And that from an Episcopalian.


81 posted on 02/19/2007 8:36:48 PM PST by MHGinTN (If you've had life support. Promote life support for others.)
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To: WKB; All

I have relatives who are members of the LDS.. Very close knit family and very religious... They pray to God and Jesus...


82 posted on 02/19/2007 8:38:41 PM PST by KevinDavis (“To be prepared for war is one of the most effectual ways of preserving peace” – George Washington)
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To: colorcountry
Nothing there is contrary to what I posted, nor what Paul, John or Hippolytus said either.

Exaltation is the same as Eternal life, so the answer to your taunt is both, through the atonement of Christ, and keeping His commandments.

D&C 14:7
And, if you keep my commandments and endure to the end you shall have eternal life, which gift is the greatest of all the gifts of God.
83 posted on 02/19/2007 8:40:20 PM PST by sevenbak
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To: KevinDavis

See post #71


84 posted on 02/19/2007 8:40:51 PM PST by WKB (Last wk I voted for Duncan, this Newt, next week Mitt, no rudi yet)
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To: MHGinTN
Thanks from a Southern Baptist
85 posted on 02/19/2007 8:42:33 PM PST by WKB (Last wk I voted for Duncan, this Newt, next week Mitt, no rudi yet)
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To: Issaquahking
Congatulations on the proper spelling of the dhimmicratic party sir!
I figured it was: d-e-m-o-c-r-a-t....ICK! (5th.grade graduate here)
86 posted on 02/19/2007 8:46:02 PM PST by S.O.S121.500 (What did I do with my tagline..........?)
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To: Enosh; All

We are not electing a Sunday School Teacher...


87 posted on 02/19/2007 8:46:59 PM PST by KevinDavis (“To be prepared for war is one of the most effectual ways of preserving peace” – George Washington)
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To: sevenbak

Requirements for Exaltation

The time to fulfill the requirements for exaltation is now (see Alma 34:32–34). President Joseph Fielding Smith said, “In order to obtain the exaltation we must accept the gospel and all its covenants; and take upon us the obligations which the Lord has offered; and walk in the light and understanding of the truth; and ‘live by every word that proceedeth forth from the mouth of God’ ” (Doctrines of Salvation, 2:43).

To be exalted, we first must place our faith in Jesus Christ and then endure in that faith to the end of our lives. Our faith in him must be such that we repent of our sins and obey his commandments.

He commands us all to receive certain ordinances:

1. We must be baptized and confirmed a member of the Church of Jesus Christ.

2. We must receive the laying on of hands for the gift of the Holy Ghost.

3. We must receive the temple endowment.

4. We must be married for time and eternity.

In addition to receiving the required ordinances, the Lord commands all of us to—

1. Love and worship God.

2. Love our neighbor.

3. Repent of our wrongdoings.

4. Live the law of chastity.

5. Pay honest tithes and offerings.

6. Be honest in our dealings with others and with the Lord.

7. Speak the truth always.

8. Obey the Word of Wisdom.

9. Search out our kindred dead and perform the saving ordinances of the gospel for them.

10. Keep the Sabbath day holy.

11. Attend our Church meetings as regularly as possible so we can renew our baptismal covenants by partaking of the sacrament.

12. Love our family members and strengthen them in the ways of the Lord.

13. Have family and individual prayers every day.

14. Honor our parents.

15. Teach the gospel to others by word and example.

16. Study the scriptures.

17. Listen to and obey the inspired words of the prophets of the Lord.

Finally, each of us needs to receive the Holy Ghost and learn to follow his direction in our individual lives.
http://www.lds.org/portal/site/LDSOrg/menuitem.b3bc55cbf541229058520974e44916a0/?vgnextoid=32c41b08f338c010VgnVCM1000004d82620aRCRD&locale=0&sourceId=7eab7befabc20110VgnVCM100000176f620a____&hideNav=1

Good luck with that.........


88 posted on 02/19/2007 9:00:12 PM PST by colorcountry (Remember: Everyone seems normal until you get to know them.)
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To: KevinDavis
Right, we are electing a commander in chief at one of the most difficult times in our history. Nothing wrong with having faith and prayer if one sits in the big chair.
89 posted on 02/19/2007 9:00:56 PM PST by sevenbak
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To: colorcountry

What luck? What here is different than what I said about obeying the commandments?


90 posted on 02/19/2007 9:02:40 PM PST by sevenbak
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To: sevenbak

Do you do all those things? When my father died, even though he had been a Bishop, he didn't know where his place would be in glory. Do you?


91 posted on 02/19/2007 9:05:51 PM PST by colorcountry (Remember: Everyone seems normal until you get to know them.)
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To: colorcountry
I try, and I fail, and I try more, and I fail more, and I hope I am forgiven 70 times 7, so I try some more, and the atonement of Christ saves me because I try to live this simple commandment. Matthew 5:48 Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.
92 posted on 02/19/2007 9:10:52 PM PST by sevenbak
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To: sevenbak

As I said, good luck.


93 posted on 02/19/2007 9:16:24 PM PST by colorcountry (Remember: Everyone seems normal until you get to know them.)
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To: colorcountry
Thanks, but the atonement takes the luck out of the equation. I know that if I do my best, Christ will take up the slack, grace for grace, according to my works.

To each his own, Good luck to you too.
94 posted on 02/19/2007 9:20:26 PM PST by sevenbak
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To: colorcountry
Just one last thought ColorCountry. Our discussion reminded me of the Psalm of Nephi, one of my favorites. I'm sure your father was a great man, and he was in good company.

2nd Nephi 4: 17 Nevertheless, notwithstanding the great goodness of the Lord, in showing me his great and marvelous works, my heart exclaimeth: O wretched man that I am! Yea, my heart sorroweth because of my flesh; my soul grieveth because of mine iniquities. 18 I am encompassed about, because of the temptations and the sins which do so easily beset me. 19 And when I desire to rejoice, my heart groaneth because of my sins; nevertheless, I know in whom I have trusted. 20 My God hath been my support; he hath led me through mine afflictions in the wilderness; and he hath preserved me upon the waters of the great deep. 21 He hath filled me with his love, even unto the consuming of my flesh.
95 posted on 02/19/2007 9:37:17 PM PST by sevenbak
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To: sevenbak

Part of the Dem/MSM whack-a-mole strategy of destroying Rep hopefuls for the Presidency until none are left unsullied. The sooner you do it, the better.


96 posted on 02/19/2007 9:39:44 PM PST by kabar
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To: colorcountry
Wow, that's a long list.

I have no problem with a candidate who chooses to adhere to these standards as part of his/her faith.

I'm not a Romney supporter, but I'd rather have a Mormon president that lives his religion than a Methodist (e.g. Hillary) who doesn't practice hers. What does Ms. Clinton believe anyway? You can't tell by her "works," or can you?

Please post a list of the standards that adherents of other churches must live by. It would be interesting to compare.

From what I can gather, for many denominations, the Ten Commandments are merely "non-binding resolutions."

97 posted on 02/19/2007 9:54:52 PM PST by wai-ming
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To: wai-ming
"From what I can gather, for many denominations, the Ten Commandments are merely "non-binding resolutions."

That's the best one I've heard all day! Now I can go to bed.
98 posted on 02/19/2007 10:11:32 PM PST by sevenbak
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To: wai-ming; sevenbak

Just what this country needs, someone who thinks they can be perfect by trying to adhere to dietary laws, Church attendence, and paying tithing.

You know wai-ming, Christians do works for the Lord, we do this because we LOVE Him, and not because we will earn a "reward" of godhood.

God recognizes that we cannot live perfectly. When we think we can, it cause one of two things. It causes us to become mentally unstable (cognitive dissonance, etc.) because we recognize our utter fallibility, or it causes us to be deceptive, to lie, and to boast about our own accomplishments.

Christians recognize their inablity to be perfect and rest in the sacrifice of Jesus Christ. Because we recognize this (how great HE is and how weak WE are) we become slaves to Him and do all our works for His glory. We become humbled by this knowledge.

It worries me that you and Mitt think that you can achieve perfection. Why do you think over 1/2 of all Mormons have left the rat race.....it simply cannot be accomplished.

That's why I issued a "good luck" to sevenbak. You guys think you can do it all by yourselves, and what tiny little bit you can't accomplish - then the atonement takes over. But the atonement in LDS opinion saves everybody (Universal atonement) so what you're left with is earning your way to Godhood. It makes a person arrogant or hopeless...those are the only two choices IMHO.


99 posted on 02/20/2007 5:09:50 AM PST by colorcountry (Remember: Everyone seems normal until you get to know them.)
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To: sevenbak

Why? Because having a Mormon as President will tend to legitimize the cult that Joseph Smith invented.

Ouch.


100 posted on 02/20/2007 5:19:12 AM PST by Theo (Global warming "scientists." Pro-evolution "scientists." They're both wrong.)
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