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To: TSchmereL

The media will not turn as hard on Giuliani even after the nomination.
***That's where we see things differently. I don't suppose there's a way to quantify it, so we're stuck with that stupid slogan of "agreeing to disagree". I really do dislike it but I don't see a way to coherently get past these 2 disparate viewpoints.

The negative press that Duncan Hunter will get will make the media criticism of Giuliani look like puff pieces.
***Negative press can be good. The media has a tendency to jump the shark without realizing it. How is it that Proposition 187 was passed in California, severely reducing benefits to illegal aliens? The media was painting supporters as UltraFarRightKooks, and didn't realize that a huge percentage of the voters in this liberal state were fed up with illegals. Once the media is calling normal, middle-class/hardworking American apple-pie voters KOOKs, that's when we win. It's much easier to do that with a candidate like Hunter than with a caricature like Giuliani. Giuliani simply splits the base and would get trounced by Hillary. His candidacy is all but over because he is making zero headway in the base. Expect to see a lot of shrillness coming from rudophiles in the next couple of months.


The problem is, I don't think Duncan Hunter has a good shot at it in 2008.
***That's fine. Watch him and learn. When the Rudybots trash his candidacy it makes lurkers wonder why they spend so much time on someone with "no chance". If they ignore him, he'll just continue to gain ground. It's like Iraqis that were sitting on their tanks in GulfWar1. If they moved, we got 'em; if they stayed still, we eventually got around to targeting 'em. It's only a matter of time and we have air supremacy.

I might change my mind before the nomination is made, but right now, it does not look that hopeful to me. So, I will not join the trashing of Giuliani.
***That's all right. You don't have to trash Giuliani; if he's your candidate, go ahead and support him. But don't expect socons to remove our socon values like yesterday's clothing, especially on this here socon website.


420 posted on 02/20/2007 12:36:38 PM PST by Kevmo (The first labor of Huntercles: Defeating the 3-headed RINO)
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To: Kevmo

The part of my post you did not respond to was:

"I will vote for Duncan Hunter if he is nominated by the Republican Party. I will never argue against nominating a more conservative candidate as long as that person has a good shot at victory in the National Election."

In the meantime, I am certainly not joining the trashing of Duncan Hunter either. In fact, I am following Ronald Reagan's 11th commandment: "Thou shalt not criticize a fellow Republican."

I don't believe we can achieve political victory from a position of political weakness. The Republican Party is not perfect and I am not blindly loyal to it. But the alternative is an anathema to everything Conservatives here say that they stand for. To be divided will allow the Democrats to take further political power which is very dangerous at this time.

It is a Conservative concept that "Government is a necessary evil." It naturally follows that an election is a choice between the lesser of two evils. I will not join the trashing of any candidate who can prevent a greater evil from taking control of this country.


421 posted on 02/20/2007 12:52:32 PM PST by TSchmereL ("Rust but terrify.")
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