[kabar]

We are heading into a real welfare state with Hillarycare on the horizon. Today, nearly 80% of Americans pay more in Social Security taxes than they do in federal income tax. Along with illegal immigration, I see the entitlement programs being the most pernicious to the long term welfare of this country.

[mek1959]

Agreed. I'm in health care now and am quite anxious about the future in that regard. In fact, I'm looking for a way out now in light of the changes that are coming.

We really have a mess on our hands and with the ideological chasm between the liberals and conservatives, I don't see an easy way out. We're no better than the libs, in my view, if all we see in this election is access to the helm of this bloated government. We need leaders to stand up and say socialism is just around the corner if we don't cut this behemoth back.