Running the Republican Numbers on Rudy (50% won't support liberal, 57% don't know Rudy is)

Fox News ^ | 18 February 2007 | Tom Bevan

[Spiff]

Running the Republican Numbers on Rudy

Trying to read too much into any 2008 poll at this point, especially with respect to horserace numbers, is somewhat silly and a waste of time. But a recent FOX News poll does have some interesting tidbits in the internals asking about voters' general impressions on issues.

[snip]

Are you more who are more or less likely to support a candidate who is pro-choice on the issue of abortion? Republicans only: More likely 22 percent (a lot more likely 12 percent, somewhat more likely 10 percent). Less likely 46 percent (a lot less likely 36 percent, somewhat less likely 10 percent). Not a major factor 30 percent.

Are you more who are more or less likely to support a candidate who supports civil unions for gays and lesbians? Republicans only: More likely 8 percent (a lot more likely 5 percent, somewhat more likely 3 percent). Less likely 50 percent (a lot less likely 39 percent, somewhat less likely 11 percent). Not a major factor 38 percent.

[snip]

The biggest red flag for Giuliani has to be that only 42 percent of Republicans surveyed correctly identified him as pro-choice. Twenty-one percent of Republican voters have it wrong and think Giuliani is pro-life, and another 36 percent of Republicans don't have a clue what his position on abortion. In other words, nearly six out of 10 registered Republican voters have yet to learn something about Giuliani which, we can infer from the first question on abortion, will make close to half of them either "somewhat" less likely or "a lot" less likely to vote for him. There's no doubt the same holds true of his position on civil unions for gays, and the Second Amendment as well.

[M. Thatcher]

The Human Life Amendment is in the Republican Party Platform, you moron. Get with the program or get out.

Now that's the way to win the argument. For us Rudy supporters.

Please keep it up.

[LtdGovt]

As I said, the Human Life Amendment is defunct. President Bush doesn't support it, and most GOP Congressmen don't. I don't see anything wrong with that, and you're certainly not going to dictate to me what I'm going to support.

[debg]

Hey, Jim Robinson has a thread up ya'll will love.

Hop to it!

[LtdGovt]

Who has killed more Americans? Terrorists or abortionists?

What would you prefer, surrender to the terrorists while outlawing abortion, or defeating the terrorists while abortion stays legal?

[jla]

Bush was againt abortion...what the hell did he do? This IS NOT THE MOST IMPORTANT ISSUE OF OUR TIME. What is wrong with you people?

Stop with the belligerence. You're too pretty to be acting this way.

[FreeReign]

I hardly had time to read the article. I was looking out the windows to see if there were any menacing Squeegee Men or sinister Public Urinators lurking around my house. I didn't find any so I guess I won't have to support Sir Rudy for president.

You misrepresent what Rudy accomplished.

[Spiff]

President Bush doesn't support it, and most GOP Congressmen don't. I don't see anything wrong with that, and you're certainly not going to dictate to me what I'm going to support.

It is in the Republican Party Platform. Are you a Republican? Do you support the goals of the Republican Party?

[JCEccles]

False choice.

Let's stop abortionists and terrorists, shall we?

That's a win-win.

[Hildy]

First of all..thank you very much...second of all...I AM NOT BEING BELLIGERENT. I am stating fact that no Republican President has done squat vis a vis Roe v Wade. It will not be overturned. And for the majority of people in this country, it is not the most important issue. IT'S JUST NOT.

[Hildy]

Oh, please.

[Spiff]

What would you prefer, surrender to the terrorists while outlawing abortion, or defeating the terrorists while abortion stays legal?

You offer a false choice. I'm not telling anyone to vote for the Democrat. Check the calendar, we're still in the primary election and there's a whole stable of Republican candidates who are pro-life AND would continue the fight to defeat terrorists.

[LtdGovt]

It is in the Republican Party Platform. Are you a Republican? Do you support the goals of the Republican Party?

Generally, yes. That doesn't mean I agree with every point in the Platform, you don't either.

[mtntop3]

We've got a lot of work to do to educate them.

Your efforts sound more like indoctrination.

[LtdGovt]

You offer a false choice.

Uhm... you were claiming that abortionists are worse than terrorists. So would it not be more important to stop abortionists, than to stop terrorists? What would you prefer?

I'm not telling anyone to vote for the Democrat. Check the calendar, we're still in the primary election and there's a whole stable of Republican candidates who are pro-life AND would continue the fight to defeat terrorists.

By all means, vote for the person you like in the primary. But once the primary is over, I will vote for the person who wins the GOP nomination, and so should you.

[JCEccles]

You misrepresent what Rudy accomplished.

As do you and the rest of the Giuliani groupies.

Tell us: how did St. Rudy slay the al Qaeda dragon? When did he do this marvelous feat?

Related question: where is your evidence that only Rudy can and will fight the War on Terror?

[CindyDawg]

Yes. Sorry. Where are my manners? Please:')

[Spiff]

Uhm... you were claiming that abortionists are worse than terrorists. So would it not be more important to stop abortionists, than to stop terrorists? What would you prefer?

Again, a false choice. I want to stop both and I will support a candidate who will do what he can as President to accomplish that.

[jla]

I AM NOT BEING BELLIGERENT

LOL

I've always liked you, Hildy, and your pro-Giuliani stance will diminish that nary a bit.

...abortion is important to many millions of people in this country. :^)

[jla]

You're missing a good one. It's actually kept me from my painting for a while.

[LtdGovt]

Again, a false choice. I want to stop both and I will support a candidate who will do what he can as President to accomplish that.

Then don't post garbage about how abortionists are worse than terrorists, okay? If a pro-choicer supports the WOT, he is a patriot IMO.