We also both know how easy it is to convert them to fully automatic I don't know that. I've heard that claim made by the Brady Campaign and other gun-control advocates, as an excuse to ban semi-automatic firearms.
If you know how to handle a semi-automatic M 1 Garand, it should be pretty easy to figure out how to operate an M14. I guess an M16 isn't that much different. And THAT is the real reason for the Second Amendment.
Agreed, 100%.
However, none of this is to the topic at hand.
It is one thing to make a cogent argument that a certain firearm/cartridge combination may be unsuitable for a particular type of game, situation, etc.
E.G. I know some people who hunt deer with the .223 Remington, and others who consider the cartridge too weak for deer hunting. (I leave that debate to them.)
However, that isn't what Zumbo and other elitist, myopic "traditionalists" such as him do.
Zumbo stated that semi-automatic rifles, such as the AR-15, were unsuitable for hunting. Period.
He then went even further, and said they should be banned "from the praries (sic) and woods".
In doing this, he plays into the hands of the Brady Campaign, etc. whos' propaganda campaign for "common sense" gun control is never ending.
The Brady Campaigns' idea of "common sense" gun control includes a ban on so-called "non-sporting" firearms. This means a ban on all semi-automatic rifles, with detachable magazines.
Shortly after Zumbo posted his comments to his blog, the Brady Campaign was already using Zumbos' statements to further their subversive, anti-gun agenda (I posted links earlier).
Jim Zumbos words may very well be used in an attempt to convince legislators (many of whom are are uneducated about firearms), to ban these "terrorist" rifles.
While we both know the Second Amendment isn't about hunting, there are too many legislators who don't.
This is why I originally replied to you, and your comment that "He's right about hunting and military rifles."
Zumbo isn't right.
Millions of people hunt each year, with semi-automatic rifles. Semi-automatic rifles are no less suitable for hunting than bolt or lever action rifles. By stating otherwise, Jim Zumbo merely displayed his elitism and his admitted ignorance.
"I don't know that. I've heard that claim made by the Brady Campaign and other gun-control advocates, as an excuse to ban semi-automatic firearms."
If I can build a rifle - and I can - I can convert a semi-automatic to a fully automatic. I know what the Brady nuts say. Not matter what the facts, they simply want to ban all guns - regardless if it is a single shot muzzle-loader or a a BB rifle or a picture of a gun - they are nuts - fanatics.
Persoanlly, I don't see what challenge there is in using a semi=automatic to hunt game or vermin. I guess if you want to eterminate a pest like coyotes, they have their usefulness.
"I don't know that. I've heard that claim made by the Brady Campaign and other gun-control advocates, as an excuse to ban semi-automatic firearms."
I saw a special on TV about Eskimos who use a .22 to shoot polar bears. They just get real close and use the right shot placement - not for me. They are also the Mafia's weapon of choice - again - get real close, make little noise but proper shot placement in the head.
"While we both know the Second Amendment isn't about hunting, there are too many legislators who don't. "
In my correspondence with most legislators, most of them haven't the foggiest notion of the difference between a fully automatic and semi-automatic and couldn't care less. Most of the bills they introduce are written by legilstiave aides who know even less than they do. I had interesting conversations with idiots who want to ban .50 caliber guns of all types and didn't even know Brown Bess'used in Revolutionary War re-enactments were .75 caliber.
I guess I'm a bit of an elitist. I remember reading "The Man-Eaters of Kumoun" by Corbett. He used a bolt action or a double barreled gun. And some bolt actions have removable magazines.
I don't know that. I've heard that claim made by the Brady Campaign and other gun-control advocates, as an excuse to ban semi-automatic firearms. First, the Brady buch are liars (what a surprise). It isn't all that easy, since the ATF won't certify a firearm for sale unless it's difficult to convert to full auto, typically requiring considerable machining of the reciever and a whole separate set of internal parts, and second SO F***ING WHAT?
What's so bad about a fully automatic weapon? We've been hammered with anti-gun propaganda for so long, that even progunners tend to concede that full autos should somehow be regulated. What a crock. If the cops and the military have them, then every person in the general populace who wants one should have them too. I remember getting into it in this forum with some lame brain from NY (or some other communist dictatorship in the northeast) about this very subject. The rtard just couldn't see why people should have unregulated access to military weapons.
Zumbo stated that semi-automatic rifles, such as the AR-15, were unsuitable for hunting. Period. He then went even further, and said they should be banned "from the praries (sic) and woods".
In doing this, he plays into the hands of the Brady Campaign, etc. whos' propaganda campaign for "common sense" gun control is never ending
And, of course, Mr Zumbo remains on the 2007 ballot as a candidate for the NRA's Board of Directors.