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To: garv; Spiff; DocH

Yes, I read the article and Mr Giulinai's archives. Which part of this statement do you not agree with?

"It's mind-boggling to most people that someone can come in from a foreign country on a visitor's visa and buy a gun in the United States, not just a gun but an automatic weapon, 14 rounds, where you can in four or five seconds get 14 bullets out.''

I note the hypocrisy of claiming to care about border security, another favorite taunt, and then letting aliens, Muslim ones at that, get guns.


67 posted on 02/18/2007 12:09:19 PM PST by dervish (In the business world, two weeks spent on a nonbinding resolution would be considered nonproductive.)
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To: dervish; Sabramerican
"It's mind-boggling to most people that someone can come in from a foreign country on a visitor's visa and buy a gun in the United States, not just a gun but an automatic weapon, 14 rounds, where you can in four or five seconds get 14 bullets out.''

It's not an automatic weapon.

Though automatic weapons, aka machine guns, are perfectly legal. Get a permit, buy one. Federally, ten or so states ban them.

14 round magazine, sounds ominous, but you are in more danger from someone carrying a wheelgun who can place 5 or 6 shots.

Aliens purchasing firearms. While I recognize they will be able to purchase them illegally, that's just plain stupid. I'd support restricting firearms ownership for non-citizens for a period of years, one, five, whatever, come up with a bill.

But Rudy didn't propose that, he didn't focus on aliens, he focused on gunowners. Legal gunowners, not illegals.

82 posted on 02/18/2007 1:00:49 PM PST by SJackson (A vote is like a rifle, its usefulness depends upon the character of the user, T. Roosevelt)
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To: dervish
First of all, RINO-rudy, like most of his gun-grabbing ilk, LOVES to muddy the waters and make the average citizen THINK that he is trying to come down hard on "automatic' weapons, when in reality, he is talking about, and he knows full well, SEMI-auto firearms.

The implication is that our society is awash with FULLY-automatic weapons, and that almost anyone can get one as easy as ordering a pizza.

The idea is to SCARE the general population into supporting licensing and registration schemes that will eventually result in a TOTAL BAN on entire classes of firearms (the ultimate goal of the likes of schumer, lautenburg, mccarthy, sarah brady, AND RINO-rudy).

It's TYPICAL LIBERAL B.S, to create a FALSE "crisis", and then make the public believe that ONLY government (ever EXPANDING government in the LA-LA-LAND that IS LIBERAL dem and RINO politics) can "solve" the crisis. This may fly in a inner-city hell-hole that is populated with sheeple, but it won't fly in MOST of our great country.

Of course we conservative gun owners and supporters and defenders of the 2nd Amendment don't want non-citizens illegally obtaining firearms, whether through normal channels (gun shops, etc.), OR on the street. The point IS, OUR answer is to come down hard on criminals that TRY and obtain such weapons (MANDATORY 5 years or more just fro TRYING), AND for other measures, like, in this case, the federal gov coming down on this foreigner playing our immigration/visit system.

RINO-rudy, and his gun-grabbing buddies answer is to make it extremely difficult, or impossible, for EVERYONE, including law-abiding citizens, from obtaining and using firearms for any purpose, legal or not.

That's UN-Constitutional, UN-American, and can NOT be accepted belief in a Republican Presidential candidate, much less a President.

107 posted on 02/18/2007 2:59:23 PM PST by DocH (Gun-grabbers, you can HAVE my guns... lead first.)
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