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To: Atlantic Bridge
There was a map in the Wall Street Journal that depicted all the areas of the world where Total SA had oil contracts. Every where there is an anti-American despot with oil, France has oil contracts. France was was heavily involved with Iraq and lost a huge contract due to the war in Iraq (then when the initial invasion was over and Saddam was captured, France wanted in to "help" with the rebuilding).
The new head of Total is supposed to be under investigation for involvement in the oil for food scam, but of course there will be no prosecution because Chirac and Villapaine (SP?) were involved as well. Now, Total is about to begin the joint development of a huge off shore natural gas field with Iran. It is not the US that is desperate for oil. It is Europe. Getting your oil from Russia is never a good thing, because it puts you at the mercy of the Russians, and we all know that Russians do not have a good track record for keeping their aggreements.

The Europeans are fond of saying that Americans are uncultured, but the Europeans have frittered away their own culture, and now the most popular baby name in Europe is Mohammed, all for oil( and money in the pockets of your corrupt leaders). Lazy Europeans rushed head long, back into the socialist nanny state after the reconstruction that followed WWII (a reconstruction that was largely done by the US, though Europe is eternally ungrateful and disloyal). It is the same the socialist condition that allowed for the rise of Hitler, because of the loss of freedom of speech, and desire to allow the government, and greedy politicians to take responsibility for your lives.

If Europe hates Hitler, it is only because he was a loser. The antisemitism in Europe is rising to the levels of the early thirties, mainly driven by the influence of the Muslim population in Europe, and again by the dependence on Mideast oil. Europe has lost its moral compass, if it ever had one, and is spinning in a tide of political perfidy.
45 posted on 02/19/2007 8:47:28 AM PST by Eva
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To: Eva
Every where there is an anti-American despot with oil, France has oil contracts.

Correct. And every where there is an pro-American despot with oil, the US has oil contracts. Do not tell me that it is more morale to make business with Saudi Arabia compared to Iraq under Saddam Hussein. Dealing with oil is a business without too much values no matter if it is done by Americans or Europeans.

The Europeans are fond of saying that Americans are uncultured, but the Europeans have frittered away their own culture, and now the most popular baby name in Europe is Mohammed, all for oil( and money in the pockets of your corrupt leaders). Lazy Europeans rushed head long, back into the socialist nanny state after the reconstruction that followed WWII (a reconstruction that was largely done by the US, though Europe is eternally ungrateful and disloyal). It is the same the socialist condition that allowed for the rise of Hitler, because of the loss of freedom of speech, and desire to allow the government, and greedy politicians to take responsibility for your lives.

Well if this is your conviction you should not waste your time in whining around about those lazy socialist Europeans. Simply pack your bags and go. Save the world on your own and do not bother us with your problems.

It is indeed true that America helped us after WWII. Germany recieved 1.5 billion US$ after the war. The sum of money was not that important but the psychological thrill gave a decisive push to the German economy. Since the US already were engaged in the cold war they needed a stable platform in central Europe. Just to get the dimensions: Germany payed 65 billion Euros reparations. Therefore it can not be said, that the recontruction of Europe was largely done by the US. This is ridicolous. It is indeed true that the US helped and we are really as thankful as we can be, but the real work was done by ourselves.

If Europe hates Hitler, it is only because he was a loser. The antisemitism in Europe is rising to the levels of the early thirties, mainly driven by the influence of the Muslim population in Europe, and again by the dependence on Mideast oil. Europe has lost its moral compass, if it ever had one, and is spinning in a tide of political perfidy.

Nope. The current level of antisemitism in Europe is quite low. It has its origin in the problems between the Arabs and Israel and can not be compared to the early thirties of the last century. Countries like Germany are delivering Israel with free weapons i.e. and are helping where they can. Olmert asked us to control the coast of Lebanon i.e. and we did although we have practically no interests there and therefore it would be a waste of money and time if it is not in the interest of the Israelis. BTW - Antisemitism in Europe can not be that eminent since more Jews immigrated to Germany than to Israel in the recent years until they changed the German immigration laws because Israel was quite pi**ed about that situation.

You know absolutely nothing about Europe. A ridicolous orgy of hate. I feel sorry for your uncle who had to suffer under Hitler and some traitorous French. Nevertheless the situation 60 years ago has only very little in common with the current.

46 posted on 02/19/2007 9:40:03 AM PST by Atlantic Bridge (De omnibus dubitandum!)
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