I thought I was done here, but --- maybe I am being unfair. To myself. And these professors. I thought I needed them to do good in this matter. But, I don't. Their hands are too tied, to institutions, the media itself, the money, their own careers, their friends who are friends and have more friends in media, etc. All I was looking at was: the content. And, with respect to this Professor Jay Rosen, I've probably written and published more articles than he has in terms of journalism, just on this forum. As for Professor Jeff Jarvis, what does it matter to him if people are being hurt on a forum by media manipulation? He barely has time to teach classes with all his paid media consulting clients. I wrote a good editorial. I knew I did. And, I did. And, on it goes. Those people will get hurt if they go to that forum. So, they should wise up. And stop going there if they want to stop getting hurt. End of story.