Romney buys pro-life credentials

WorldNetDaily ^ | February 17, 2007 | Joseph R. Giganti

[sevenbak]

Then there is his actual voting record. The Dems in Mass. gave him a failing grade. WOOHOO!

http://www.massscorecard.org/MA-Gov/Mitt_Romney.htm

[EternalVigilance]

Already asked and answered many times, but it appears EV is paid by the word to write the same stuff over and over.

Prove it. Or apologize, one or the other.

In other words, since it is impossible for you to prove it, because I am not in the employ of any campaign or candidate, I'll await your contrite mea culpa for making such an accusation.

[EternalVigilance]

Then there is his actual voting record. The Dems in Mass. gave him a failing grade. WOOHOO!

Yeah. Those who play both sides of the fence usually do end up being despised by both sides.

It's one of the reasons RINOS always do end up being worse than useless.

[EternalVigilance]

In your post #18, you used over 400 words to try to spin and obfuscate away a simple fact: Mitt Romney appointed more Democrats than Republicans to the bench during his tenure as Governor.

Can you manage a simple one word "YES" to just admit that this is true?

Then, explain why Romney appointed several radical gay activists to the bench, too. Also, while you're at it, explain why such extreme leftists also were able to find employ throughout the Romeny Administration as well.

[EternalVigilance]

Your questions are red herrings. Making headway on restoring the unalienable rights of the unborn in America is hard enough when so-called conservatives like George W. Bush are in office.

Why, pray tell, would any thinking pro-life person make it even harder by nominating long time hardcore pro-aborts like Romney or Giuliani?

[nowandlater]

This is a sloppy attempt at journalism. This article says that Bopp is lying but nowhere do they ask him directly to explain about his "apparent" incosistency. And then they creatvie a motive which says that he is a traitor who is bought with money.

Look, since Mitt took office in Massachussetts, January 2003, show me where he passed or vetoed legislation that was anti-life?

The answer is zilch!

Conversely, since Mitt took office in Massachussetts, January 2003, show me where he passed or vetoed legislation that was pro-life?

-Vetoed embryonic cloning.
-Vetoed emergency pro-abortion anti-conception legislation.
and many other vetoes were pro-life in the affirmative.

If you doubt me that he governed conservatively then look at the record:

http://www.massscorecard.org/MA-Gov/Mitt_Romney.htm

He opposed the Libs for all but one of his vetos.

[EternalVigilance]

Romney's got better spinners than you.

[sevenbak]

Read his actual voting record. He was at odds with the Dems his whole term. They hated him, still do. He sided with them on 1 out of 22 issues.

2005-06 Mass Scorecard for Gubernatorial candidate Mitt Romney

PLEASE NOTE: THIS IS A DRAFT WEBSITE WITH INCOMPLETE VOTING RECORDS

Republican (retiring 2006)

Office: Office of the Governor, State House, Rm 360, Boston MA 02133

Phone: (617) (617) 725-4005

E-mail: Non-published

Website: http://mass.gov/?pageID=gov2homepage&L=1&L0=Home&sid=Agov2

Vote selection and interpretation by representatives of Mass Scorecard without approval or participation from the Massachusetts Democratic Party.

Fundamental Issue in MassDems' Party Platform (Click for full text of platform section)	Summary of related issue put to vote (Click for gubernatorial candidate's related statement)	This candidate's stance on this issue	Party platform on this issue
Part I: CIVIL RIGHTS   Clause 9: Same-sex marriage	Sep 14, 2005:Affirming marriage for heterosexuals only	Romney: YES	Platform: NO
Part II: HEALTH CARE   Clause 14: Stem cell research	May 31, 2005:Overriding veto on Stem Cell Research Bill	Romney: NO	Platform: YES
Clause 16 & 17: Mental health	Jul 14, 2005:Maintaining two state psychiatric hospitals	Romney: NO	Platform: YES
Clause 11 & 12: MassHealth	Nov 3, 2005:Increasing benefits under MassHealth	Romney: YES	Platform: YES
Mental Health	Jul 10, 2003:Veto override of "Turning 22" mental disability program	Romney: NO	Platform: YES
Part III: EDUCATION   No Child Left Behind	Jul 10, 2003:Veto override of federal school breakfast supplement	Romney: NO	Platform: YES
Full Funding	Jul 20, 2004:moratorium on expansion of charter schools	Romney: NO	Platform: YES
Part IV: ECONOMIC GROWTH   Workforce Training	Jan 13, 2004:investing in emerging technologies, math & science Fund.	Romney: NO	Platform: YES
Part V: LABOR   Clause 13: Immigrant rights	Jan 11, 2006:Allowing in-state tuition for undocumented immigrants	Romney: NO	Platform: YES
Part VI: HOUSING   Clause 1 & 3: Homelessness	Jul 14, 2005:Veto override for $220K for homelessness	Romney: NO	Platform: YES
Clause 5: Housing subsidy	Nov 3, 2005:$2 million for Mass Rental Voucher Program	Romney: NO	Platform: YES
Part VII: SOCIAL SECURITY   Clause 3: Safety net	Jul 14, 2005:Studying how MA can overcome federal workfare rules	Romney: NO	Platform: YES
Clause 2 and 3: Safety net	Sep 22, 2005:Restricting welfare benefits to 5 years	Romney: YES	Platform: NO
Persons with Disabilities	Jul 10, 2003:Veto override of $200K reduction to blind job program	Romney: NO	Platform: YES
Persons with Disabilities	Jul 10, 2003:Veto override of $900K for disability & mentoring aid	Romney: NO	Platform: YES
Urban Investment	Jul 8, 2004:rejecting $25M earmarked for Housing Trust Fund	Romney: YES	Platform: NO
Part VIII: ENVIRONMENT   Safeguarding Natural Resources	Nov 17, 2003:Veto override to keep park maintenance funding within MDC	Romney: NO	Platform: YES
Toxics Use Reductions	Jul 30, 2004:requiring dental amalgam (mercury) separators	Romney: NO	Platform: YES
Part IX: CONSUMER PROTECTION	(No votes on which to base response)
Part X: SAFETY AND CRIME   Clause 3: Death penalty	Nov 15, 2005:Reinstating capital punishment	Romney: YES	Platform: NO
Legal Services	Jul 10, 2003:Veto override of Mass Correctional Legal Services	Romney: NO	Platform: YES
Crime Prevention	Feb 10, 2004:earmarking funds for women's substance abuse program	Romney: NO	Platform: YES
Part XI: VOTING PROCEDURES	(No votes on which to base response)
Part XII: TAXES AND SERVICES   Clause 1: Condemn tax cuts	Oct 18, 2005:Postponing reduction of income tax to 5%	Romney: NO	Platform: YES
Number of votes in 2005-06 in accord with Democratic Party Platform:		1 out of 22 votes.
Summary letter grade: A=90% or better; B=80%; C=70%; D=60%; F=below 60%		F

Accord with the Democratic Party Platform is determined by representatives of Mass Scorecard and has no approval by nor association with the Massachusetts Democratic Party.

Other Mass Reps from MA County:		Mitt Romney voting record:
Chris Gabrieli Christy Mihos Deval Patrick Grace Ross Kerry Healey Tom Reilly		Part I: CIVIL RIGHTS Part II: HEALTH CARE Part III: EDUCATION Part IV: ECONOMIC GROWTH Part V: LABOR Part VI: HOUSING Part VII: SOCIAL SECURITY Part VIII: ENVIRONMENT Part IX: CONSUMER PROTECTION Part X: SAFETY AND CRIME Part XI: VOTING PROCEDURES Part XII: TAXES AND SERVICES Mass Scorecard Home Page 2003-2004 House Index 2005-2006 House Index 2003-2004 Senate Index 2005-2006 Senate Index

[EternalVigilance]

They hated him, still do.

Like I said earlier, those who play both sides end up hated by both sides.

[nowandlater]

Ok...?

and how am I wrong about what I said?

[sevenbak]

And a house divided against it'self can not stand. That's what is happening to our country, and what will happen to our party unless we come together on someone. I think Mitt can bring many together, there are also others I could get behind, but right now, I'm hoping it's Mitt.

[redgirlinabluestate]

Romney is at least TRYING TO FAKE IT.

If only more people could "fake" it like this:

Mitt Romney has taken the pro-life position on every abortion-related issue he faced while governor:

-He vetoed an emergency contraception bill and offered a compelling case for life in the process.

-He fought efforts to advance embryonic stem cell research in Massachusetts, despite overwhelming opposition.

-He pledged to veto any effort to expand access to RU-486, the abortion pill.

-He has faced constant ridicule from pro-abortion organizations for refusing to give in to their demands.

-He actively promoted abstinence education programs in Massachusetts’ schools. The abstinence movement and the pro-life movement work hand-in-hand to reduce the number of teen pregnancies and to promote true sexual health to America’s youth. americansformitt.com

[nowandlater]

EV,

I am sure you want to win, but I see only two outcomes. Either it is Rudy or Mitt. Which one would you prefer?


If you want Rudy to win, then hope for a late entry in the fall into the race by Newt. The early primary process is putting a huge premium on money and with Newt playing footsie with the social conservative wing of the party for the next 7 months is causing all of the 2nd tier candidates NOT to gain traction and it severely hurts their ability to raise funds and to stage an upset--in fact those two conditions will make it impossible for a dark horse to emerge.

McCain will flounder, Rudy will gain strength, Newt freezes the field by his inaction, and Romney fills the vacuum if Newt does not run. Otherwise, if Newt does wait and runs in the fall then Rudy wins. Game Set Match for Rudy.

Is that what you want?

[unspun]

Romney is at least TRYING TO FAKE IT.

Rudy is not even trying.

A grim, grim LOL.

[EternalVigilance]

YOU: "This article says that Bopp is lying but nowhere do they ask him directly to explain about his "apparent" incosistency."

BOPP: "Mitt Romney has stood side-by-side with those seeking to protect the weakest and most innocent of our society … he has acted to protect the sanctity of life. [His] record on fundamental life issues is one of not just words but action. I am proud to count myself among his supporters."

GIGANTI: "The terms intellectually dishonest, disingenuous, willing suspension of disbelief and/or cognitive dissonance just don't seem to adequately describe the magnitude of Bopp's betrayal – even combined."

ROMNEY: "I believe that abortion should be safe and legal in this country. I have since the time that my mom took that position when she ran in 1970 as a US Senate candidate. I believe that since Roe v. Wade has been the law for 20 years we should sustain and support it." - Mitt Romney

Looks to me like Giganti has it nailed.

[Stayfree]

Newt is more in line with conservative solutions to our problems, all the rest are also-rans talking out of both sides of their mouths just to become the most powerful person on this planet. Who needs another Clinton ego as President...I don't!!!

[EternalVigilance]

Either it is Rudy or Mitt. Which one would you prefer?

Neither man will ever receive a vote from me. Ever. They've spent their entire careers fighting for the things that are destroying our country, and against conservatives and conservatism.

[EternalVigilance]

Your strategizing is humorous.

You know the old joke:

How do you make God laugh?







Tell him your plans...

[nowandlater]

No he didn't. How does Giganti dismiss these actions? Either Giganti is lying or Bopp is lying? Which one is the liar EV?

"Mitt Romney has taken the pro-life position on every abortion-related issue he faced while governor:

-He vetoed an emergency contraception bill and offered a compelling case for life in the process.

-He fought efforts to advance embryonic stem cell research in Massachusetts, despite overwhelming opposition.

-He pledged to veto any effort to expand access to RU-486, the abortion pill.

-He has faced constant ridicule from pro-abortion organizations for refusing to give in to their demands.

-He actively promoted abstinence education programs in Massachusetts’ schools. The abstinence movement and the pro-life movement work hand-in-hand to reduce the number of teen pregnancies and to promote true sexual health to America’s youth."

[redgirlinabluestate]

On Newt:

1) He is not running for president; he is running for VP.

2) On the slight chance he does run for president, he can not win the votes of women, independents, and Reagan democrats that Rudy and Romney can. I keep hearing his negatives are in the 60% range. Hence, he can not win in the general.

3) Newt, with all his pussy-footing around, splits the conservative vote while all the unappeasables hold out for a possible Newt run ushering in a Rudy win.