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Good for McCain
National Review On Line ^ | 2/17/07 | Kathryn Jean Lopez

Posted on 02/17/2007 3:13:16 PM PST by zook

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McCain was right to stay away. All the patriots should have stayed away from this farce. [Be sure to read entire piece by clicking on link.)
1 posted on 02/17/2007 3:13:17 PM PST by zook
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McCain's only redeeming quality as a candidate, IMO, is his unconditional support for the troops and fighting to win.


2 posted on 02/17/2007 3:17:05 PM PST by Loyal Buckeye
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To: zook
McCain blasted the demoralizing antic as “an insult to the public and our soldiers to think a cloture vote to cut off debate on a motion to proceed to another cloture vote to cut off debate about a meaningless resolution is anything other than a partisan stunt and an evasion of our responsibilities.”

He hit the nail on the head, here.

3 posted on 02/17/2007 3:20:41 PM PST by hsalaw
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McCain was right to stay away.

No doubt. In fact, he should stay away from D.C. forever.

4 posted on 02/17/2007 3:35:00 PM PST by AntiGuv ("..I do things for political expediency.." - Sen. John McCain on FOX News)
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To: zook

McCain doesn't even bother to vote.

what leadership


5 posted on 02/17/2007 3:40:38 PM PST by greasepaint
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For truly supporting the troops and their mission, I'm most impressed by the courage of Sen. Joe Lieberman with this statement last Friday:

The non-binding resolution before us is not about stopping a hypothetical plan. It is about disapproving a plan that is being carried out now by our fellow Americans in uniform, in the field. In that sense, as I have said, it is unprecedented in Congressional history, in American history. This resolution is about shouting into the wind. It is about ignoring realities of what’s happening on the ground in Baghdad.

It proposes nothing. It contains no plan for victory or retreat. It proposes nothing. It is a strategy of “no,” while our soldiers are saying, “yes, sir” to their commanding officers as they go forward into battle.

And that is why I will vote against the resolution by voting against cloture.

I understand the frustration, anger, and exhaustion that so many Americans, so many members of Congress, feel about Iraq, the desire to throw up one’s hands and simply say, “Enough.” And I am painfully aware of the enormous toll of this war in human life — and of the mistakes that have been made in the war’s conduct.

But let us now not make another mistake. In the midst of a fluid and uncertain situation in Iraq, we should not be so bound up in our own arguments and disagreements, so committed to the positions we have staked out, that the political battle over here takes precedence over the real battle over there. Whatever the passions of the moment, the point of reference for our decision-making should be military movements on the battlefields of Iraq, not political maneuverings in the halls of Congress.


6 posted on 02/17/2007 3:43:11 PM PST by Unmarked Package (Amazing surprises await us under cover of a humble exterior.)
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To: hsalaw
McCain blasted the demoralizing antic as “an insult to the public and our soldiers to think a cloture vote to cut off debate on a motion to proceed to another cloture vote to cut off debate about a meaningless resolution is anything other than a partisan stunt and an evasion of our responsibilities.”

HSALAW: He hit the nail on the head, here.

Perhaps, but what is becoming increasingly demoralizing, and scary, is how Congress is using their position for circuslike showmanship rather than for its intended purpose which is to legislate. All these "nonbinding resolutions", "mock impeachment trails" in the basement of the Capitol, "no confidence" votes ... blah blah blah

All it does is give more fodder for the MSM to 'report' that the country is turning against the President. It's all a show, and they know it too, but it resonates in the mind of the ill informed of this country, of which there are many

7 posted on 02/17/2007 3:48:15 PM PST by Mr_Moonlight
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To: Unmarked Package

I was just about to post that quote. Kudos to Senator Lieberman - he gets it.


8 posted on 02/17/2007 3:48:38 PM PST by StatenIsland
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To: zook

Typical .. they were only 4 votes shy of getting their lunacy passed.

Either McCain KNEW it would not pass .. or he's so arrogant that he just didn't care if it passed or not .. since it's non-binding.


9 posted on 02/17/2007 3:51:20 PM PST by CyberAnt (Drive-By Media: Fake news, fake documents, fake polls)
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To: greasepaint

His point is, and I agree with him, that he didn't have to vote on this. No one did. It was a farce and a ploy. Sometimes it's better to ignore idiots in action.

He's been a strong supporter of the troops and of the war. No need to participate in the dog and pony show of cloture.


10 posted on 02/17/2007 3:51:56 PM PST by zook
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Ok, so McCain has one redeeming quality. It doesn't go far to outweigh his bountiful non-redeeming ones.


11 posted on 02/17/2007 3:52:54 PM PST by stm (Believe 1% of what you hear in the drive-by media and take half of that with a grain of salt)
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To: CyberAnt

They needed 60 votes to shut off debate and vote. McCain knew they wouldn't get it, so no need for him to be sucked in to the Dem. traitors' game.


12 posted on 02/17/2007 3:53:57 PM PST by zook
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"Either McCain KNEW it would not pass .. or he's so arrogant that he just didn't care if it passed or not .. since it's non-binding."

As I understand it, it takes 60 votes for cloture. In this case all those who voted against cloture could have gone about other business. Is this the way it is, or does it only take a vote of 60% of those present to invoke cloture? What is a quorum for a senate vote?

13 posted on 02/17/2007 4:00:16 PM PST by lstanle
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They needed 60 to stop the debate.


14 posted on 02/17/2007 4:01:26 PM PST by CyberAnt (Drive-By Media: Fake news, fake documents, fake polls)
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To: hsalaw
a cloture vote to cut off debate on a motion to proceed to another cloture vote

Only our beloved politicians. Hopefully a few people will see the idiocy and irrelevance of this behavior to any serious issue.

15 posted on 02/17/2007 4:04:13 PM PST by AndyJackson
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Let me see....wasn't it the people that decided not to vote in the last election to "teach the republicans a lesson" that lost us the republican majority to begin with?? Sorry, I don't see how McCain not casting a vote against the democRAT treason is a good thing.


16 posted on 02/17/2007 4:06:38 PM PST by Mogollon
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"Kudos to Senator Lieberman - he gets it."

Yes, he sees the big picture. Sen. Lieberman is thinking strategically to prevent another holocaust in the future at the hands of jihadists, whereas the small-minded, partisan Democrats such as Nancy Pelosi are thinking only about the U.S. elections next year.

17 posted on 02/17/2007 4:12:38 PM PST by Unmarked Package (Amazing surprises await us under cover of a humble exterior.)
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WOW!, for someone who changed his stripes to go along with the Wooden Indian, Joe may actually have statesman potential.


18 posted on 02/17/2007 4:18:23 PM PST by Paladin2 (Islam is the religion of violins, NOT peas.)
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To: zook

If it didn't matter that he was there, then it wasn't a move of courage to miss the vote. If he wants to show political courage, he should publicly repudiate Hagel.


19 posted on 02/17/2007 4:20:20 PM PST by aynrandfreak (Who would turn out better if we split into two separate countries based on the '04 Presidential Map?)
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To: stm

I've had problems with him on quite a few issues, but if he's the nominee, I'd easily vote for him. Just try imagining Hillary or Obama making the selection for the next 2 or 3 SC justices. He's been quite conservative on social issues, far more than Guiliani.


20 posted on 02/17/2007 4:43:53 PM PST by ruschpa
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