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The Religious Right's Era Is Over
Time ^ | February 16, 2007 | Jim Wallis

Posted on 02/17/2007 6:23:04 AM PST by NYer

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To: madprof98

Good observations. Thanks for the post and ping!


61 posted on 02/17/2007 7:03:03 AM PST by NYer ("Where the bishop is present, there is the Catholic Church" - Ignatius of Antioch)
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To: Reo
Jim Wallis is part of the "Religious Left", an oxymoron if ever there was one.

Everyone is religious. Now if he had said the "Christian Left" that would have been an oxymoron.

62 posted on 02/17/2007 7:04:43 AM PST by DungeonMaster (Acts 17:11 also known as sola scriptura.)
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To: kaotic133
I always thought math, history, and the wisdom of successful people were pretty important

Oh...I understand. We can understand salvation, the purpose of man and our relationship with our Creator from college professors, Katie Couric and Britney Spears.

63 posted on 02/17/2007 7:05:56 AM PST by nitzy
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To: knarf

I like your analogy.

What I always told my kids - If you are standing on a table and your friend is on the floor - it's easier for him to pull you down than it is for you to pull him up. So choose your friends carefully.


64 posted on 02/17/2007 7:06:13 AM PST by repubmom (Proud Army Mom of two deployed soldiers! Psalm 91)
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To: MACVSOG68
. . . an understanding that those social values the RR here decries most, abortion and gay rights, have little or nothing to do with the presidency . . .

How odd that that wasn't the case when the Democrats were espousing them. In fact, the Clintons' leadership in the push for abortion and gay rights was routinely cited as an example of the depravity and the decadence into which they were leading this country. And if you think the Guiliani boosters here are not enthusiastic about throwing the social conservatives to the sharks, then you haven't been following the numerous threads on which they post here.

65 posted on 02/17/2007 7:06:14 AM PST by madprof98 ("moritur et ridet" - salvianus)
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To: Spiff; All
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66 posted on 02/17/2007 7:06:21 AM PST by musicman
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To: NYer
Jim Wallis is a leftist asshole.

President of the SDS while in college. Activist for "SOCIAL JUSTICE".

His other titles should be USEFUL IDIOT, COMMUNIST, STUPID TOOL.

67 posted on 02/17/2007 7:07:22 AM PST by metalurgist ("For what will it profit a man if he gains the whole world and forfeits his soul?" No to Rudy)
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To: NYer

This makes as much sense as when after the 2004 elections, there were those on FR claiming the Democrat party was dead.


68 posted on 02/17/2007 7:09:15 AM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: NYer

He must be joking. No, lying, actually.

Just another liberal "Christian"


69 posted on 02/17/2007 7:09:48 AM PST by chesley ("Socialism" - compassion for those that don't have any.)
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To: dirtboy
a whole new denomination has emerged, which might be called the "spiritual but not religious."

He actually got this right. The Left are not Christians they are New Age narcissists--The "God is me" crowd. Old dregs in new bottles.

They have lost the battle for the established churches, as the devout have voted with their feet. Wallis's own UCC no longer is willing to declare Jesus Christ as God incarnate. They will hollow out the husks of the moribund Mainline and set up shop as UN-type NGO's instead.

"Spiritual but not religious." Exactly. "Religious" implies the faith that there is a God worth worshipping somewhere.

70 posted on 02/17/2007 7:10:08 AM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: MACVSOG68
If our Founding Fathers followed the same strategy of compromise you advocate, we would be mailing our income taxes to London, or perhaps a British Commonwealth type capital named for General Howe, George III, or the Duke of Wellington. If Roosevelt and Churchill followed this strategy against the Nazis, the Third Reich would be celebrating its 75th anniversary next year.

Since the days of Wendell Willkie, the moderates and liberals in GOP ranks have been trying to sell their candidates as the lesser of two evils. RINOs, and their predecessors, the Rockefeller Republicans and the "me too" crowd have merely served as a junior partner for the New Deal/Great Society, the tax collector who did not dispute the rising bills for the welfare state, but who merely wanted to fund the bill through taxes and not borrowings from the Fed or private investors. The greatest triumphs the GOP has achieved were in 1980, 1984, and 1994 when the party had a clearly conservative message.

America does not need a Rudy McRomney. The borders would remain porous, we would continue waging a no win war in Iraq and Afghanistan, social programs would continue to expand, and new mandates would continue to be imposed. Would Rudy McRomney be better than Hillary or Obama? Maybe, if you think slow death via cancer is better than a massive heart attack.

The only cure for America's political problems is to return to the philosophy of our Founders - limited government, personal and financial liberty, and strong national defense. There is no substitute for victory.

71 posted on 02/17/2007 7:12:05 AM PST by Wallace T.
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To: Wallace T.
Since the days of Wendell Willkie, the moderates and liberals in GOP ranks have been trying to sell their candidates as the lesser of two evils.

And that is the sales pitch from the Rudy boosters this year. The problem is, they are simultaneously closing the gap between the two evils.

72 posted on 02/17/2007 7:13:55 AM PST by dirtboy (Duncan Hunter 08)
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To: nitzy

Nah I mean successful people of significant talents other than manipulation LOL Unfortunately its all subjective and the success we see is the success they want us to see :(

I would like to hear more from the many corporate Ph.D.s and successful MBAs who have constructive answers about society - people who work for a living as leaders in their fields. People who create jobs and fuel investment. All we ever get is people filled with anger at financial success, or moral deprevation. People who have few answers aside from condemnation for their enemies.


73 posted on 02/17/2007 7:13:56 AM PST by kaotic133
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To: Ghost of Philip Marlowe
Yes, notice what he writes: recovering the language of faith

The language, not faith. The Left has been twisting words and making linguistic loopholes, rhetoric, euphemisms forever, as anyone who wants to deceive will do.
74 posted on 02/17/2007 7:15:20 AM PST by socialismisinsidious ( The socialist income tax system turns US citizens into beggars or quitters!)
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To: kaotic133
I would like to hear more from the many corporate Ph.D.s and successful MBAs who have constructive answers about society

From my experiences working with such people, with all due respect, that is the last thing we need. I'd rather hear from self-made businessmen who learned sweat lessons than who got received a brainful of academic business views and then inflicted them on their respective organizations.

75 posted on 02/17/2007 7:15:22 AM PST by dirtboy (Duncan Hunter 08)
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To: ishabibble
"...and a more moderate Islam is growing;..."

What? The mooselimb terrorists have stopped packing their C-4 belts with ball bearing and are now using M&M's? Sure sign of moderation.

Apostates have been trying for 2000 years to take Christ out of Christianity. My bet is on God.

76 posted on 02/17/2007 7:16:06 AM PST by USS Alaska (Nuke the terrorist savages - In Honor of Standing Wolf)
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To: nitzy

It's just a repackaged "relativity" argument


77 posted on 02/17/2007 7:16:34 AM PST by SaintDismas (.)
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From Wikipedia: Raised in a traditional evangelical (Plymouth Brethren) family [4], as a young man Wallis became active in the civil rights movement. He graduated from Michigan State University, where he was President of Students for a Democratic Society and then went on to attend Trinity Evangelical Divinity School in Illinois where he joined with other young seminarians in establishing the community that eventually became Sojourners.

His books include God's Politics: Why the Right Gets It Wrong and the Left Doesn't Get It (2004), Faith Works: How Faith Based Organizations Are Changing Lives, Neighborhoods, and America (2000), and The Soul of Politics: Beyond "Religious Right" and "Secular Left" (1995).

His writings are regularly published as op-eds in major media outlets, and he teaches a course in religion and politics at Harvard University. He is also the convener of Call to Renewal, an interfaith effort to end poverty.

In discussing the 2004 American presidential elections, Wallis said "Jesus didn’t speak at all about homosexuality. There are about 12 verses in the Bible that touch on that question ... [t]here are thousands of verses on poverty. I don’t hear a lot of that conversation." [2]

Jim was invited by Sen. Harry Reid (D-NV) to give the Democrats' weekly radio address on Saturday, December 2, 2006. He spoke about the importance of moral leadership in Washington, and touched on a variety of social concerns.


78 posted on 02/17/2007 7:18:17 AM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: NYer

ping for later


79 posted on 02/17/2007 7:19:09 AM PST by ROLF of the HILL COUNTRY ( ISLAMA DELENDA EST!)
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To: NYer
.....so God has spoken and jim is informing the masses in this book?
80 posted on 02/17/2007 7:19:22 AM PST by tioga
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