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To: Jim Robinson

I don't believe he'll get that far, but you have hit on what is a tremendous personal dilemma for me in this race to date.

I will support Duncan Hunter or some other true conservative until it becomes obvious that I have lost.

At that point, I must decide if it is better to make some type of symbolic vote or cast a vote that will be against someone worse than the Republican nominee.

I think it is better to slightly plug the gap in the wall through which the enemy would pour, than to join in a retreat. Sometimes a retreat is wise, but only if it provides the opportunity to regroup and reattack.

I think Hillary will be the democratic nominee, and I know from trusted personal contacts that she is a lesbian. Her beliefs are openly socialist. I'm not sure the nation as we know it could survive 8 years of her.

Giuliani for 4 would give us a chance to raise up a successful conservative.


82 posted on 02/16/2007 3:53:43 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who support the troops will pray for them to WIN!)
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To: xzins

Dear xzins,

"Her beliefs are openly socialist. I'm not sure the nation as we know it could survive 8 years of her.

"Giuliani for 4 would give us a chance to raise up a successful conservative."

If Mrs. Clinton is elected, we could possibly defeat her in four years. And at the very least, her election would galvanize Republican opposition to her agenda. This is what led to the Republican Revolution in 1994 - the stiffening of Republican resolve, and the creation of an alternative agenda, as a response to the liberal, socialist Clinton regime.

However, if Mr. Giuliani is elected, we will not be able to get rid of him in four years, except to suffer defeat at the hands of the Dems in 2012. One cannot generally get rid of one's president during the nominating process, and then win the election. In fact, significant challenges to one's party's president during the nominating process often usher in the other major party's win.

But worse still, just as we've seen congressional Republicans roll over for Mr. Bush's big-spending, liberal programs, it's unlikely that congressional Republicans will be able to raise significant, organized, effective opposition across the board against Mr. Giuliani's many, varied, nearly limitless liberal predilections.

Four years of President Giuliani would be disastrous for the nation, and for Republicans as a conservative party. Eight years would likely formally destroy the party. I'd expect that by 2016, the Republican Party would be a rump party, as the Whigs were by the end of the 1850s.

"Raising up" conservative alternatives would be the least of the problems of the Republican Party. It would also be the least of issues for conservatives.


sitetest


92 posted on 02/16/2007 4:26:04 PM PST by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: xzins
Giuliani for 4 would give us a chance to raise up a successful conservative.

Are you proposing this hypothetical conservative would then defeat a sitting president in a primary battle? That's a bet I would NOT make.

We need to find a conservative leader now, not some RINO who are enemies annoint as "electable". A win by either a "Socialist Democrat" or "new-castrati RINO" in 2008 will be disasterous for the country.

97 posted on 02/16/2007 4:47:37 PM PST by johnpannell
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