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To: gobus1

Mormons believe that God is a physical being.
They believe that he was once a man like us.
They believe that the true Gospel was lost and that the Book of Mormon fills in what was lost.
They believe that Satan and Jesus are coequal in substance.
They have an adoptionist Christology.
Their theology is Manichean, Pelagian, and Monophysist.
Their theology is non Trinitarian.
They believe in baptising the dead and that Mormons achieve a higher level in Heaven.
Wany more?

These things have been written both in the Book of Mormon and by their theologians. Many Mormons don't even know what they believe.


70 posted on 02/17/2007 7:46:04 AM PST by gobus1
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To: gobus1
"They believe that Satan and Jesus are coequal in substance."

You missed on this one. Satan has NO substance. He is spirit only. Jesus is spirit, and that spirit also occupied a human body. That body was killed, and resurrected, with his spirit intact. Jesus lives, and is our Saviour, you and I both. We are Christians, as were the Monophysites, the Arians, and many others, including the Catholics, Baptists, and Eastern Orthodox. When we stand before God, He will judge us, and determine if we should have any of the mercy He stored up for us. What more do you want?
75 posted on 02/18/2007 1:00:39 AM PST by Old Student (We have a name for the people who think indiscriminate killing is fine. They're called "The Bad Guys)
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To: gobus1
"Mormons believe that God is a physical being. "

True.

"They believe that he was once a man like us. "

True. Although that was before this universe existed.

"They believe that the true Gospel was lost and that the Book of Mormon fills in what was lost."

True, if you change it to read "...and that the Book of Mormon fills in PART of what was lost." We also believe that prophecy still continues.


"They believe that Satan and Jesus are coequal in substance."

Wrong. We believe that Lucifer and Jesus are spirit children of God just like you and I. That both of those individuals were very exceptional. That both suggested plans of salvation for mankind, and that Lucifer rebelled, and became Satan, because he would not accept the plan that Jesus suggested, and that God adopted. Satan is a spirit, still, with no corporeal existance. Jesus was born, lived, died, and was resurrected as part of his plan to win salvation for all of us.

"They have an adoptionist Christology."

I'm not a theologian, so I'll need that explained before I can answer it.

"Their theology is Manichean, Pelagian, and Monophysist. "

I believe you're lumping too many different heresies in there. We are not Manichean, at least as I understand it. IIRC, they believed that Satan was powerful enough that he could win. We don't believe that. I don't remember the definitions of the other two well enough to argue with you about them right now, and don't have time to look them up just yet. I'll take a raincheck on those, OK?


"Their theology is non Trinitarian."

We disagree on details of the Trinity, so possibly you're right, but also possibly you're wrong.

"They believe in baptising the dead and that Mormons achieve a higher level in Heaven."

I find in 1 Corinthians 15:29 "Else what shall they do which are baptized for the dead, if the dead rise not at all? why are they then baptized for the dead?" This despite my stepfather saying there was no mention of baptism for the dead in the Bible. As for us getting to a higher level in Heaven, that is only for those who obey ALL the law. God is just, and I can't see him setting up an unjust system. Can you?


"These things have been written both in the Book of Mormon and by their theologians. Many Mormons don't even know what they believe."

That is a problem with people of all faiths, including yours, whatever it is. We don't have a corner on that market.
108 posted on 02/28/2007 7:06:27 PM PST by Old Student (We have a name for the people who think indiscriminate killing is fine. They're called "The Bad Guys)
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