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Evangelical leader sizes up GOP field, says Giuliani’s campaign is doomed
The Hill ^ | 16 February 2007 | Sam Youngman

Posted on 02/16/2007 4:56:04 AM PST by Spiff

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To: Nathan Zachary
Have you ever voted for a democrat? If so who?

I can't think of single Democrat that I could vote for.

21 posted on 02/16/2007 5:30:42 AM PST by Spiff (Rudy Giuliani Quote (NY Post, 1996) "Most of Clinton's policies are very similar to most of mine.")
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To: Dudoight
>>>>>Keep in mind that a vote for a 'third' party is a vote for the Democratic candidate.

Thats BULLoney!

People who have a conscience and want to uphold their principles and integrity vote for the person who they see as the best candidate that matches what they belive in.

Conservatives of conscience aren't about to run out and support someone who doesn't respect the right to life of the unborn by supporting abortion on demand and partial birth abortion, along with amnesty for illegals, gay rights, big govt, topped off by being a gungrabber.

Sorry. Not my vote. Not Rudy Giuliani.

22 posted on 02/16/2007 5:31:36 AM PST by Reagan Man (Conservatives don't vote for liberals.)
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To: Spiff

Watch and see how Giuliani moderates as the primaries get closer.With the exception of spaceshots like Ralph Nader ALL politicians move in the right hand direction at some point in the election cycle.For Pub's it's the primaries for D'craps it's the general election.Some people see this as lying,politicians see it as the X's and O's of a good game plan !!!


23 posted on 02/16/2007 5:31:36 AM PST by Obie Wan
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If Guiliani does win the primary and become the Republican candidate running against Hillary, staying home or voting 3rd party will make Hillary President. Is that what ANYONE here wants?

Do you even remotely think that a President Hillary will have conservative positions on guns, gays, and abortion? I think you already know the answer to that question.

Whoever wins the Presidency must be strong on national defense. Hillary is not.

24 posted on 02/16/2007 5:31:41 AM PST by Carolinamom (Whatever you voted for, you did not vote for failure -- President Bush SOTU)
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To: doc30
Thereby guaranteeing a victory for the dems at all levels.

You may not like it, but that's reality. If Giuliani is the nominee, social conservatives won't vote for him and he will lose the general election. So, if you're extremely worried that Clinton could be our next President, you better get busy promoting a more acceptable GOP candidate and hoping that Giuliani gets knocked down far enough to give your candidate a shot. That is what is at stake here and that's what you have to do if you don't want a Democrat to win in 2008.

25 posted on 02/16/2007 5:32:51 AM PST by Spiff (Rudy Giuliani Quote (NY Post, 1996) "Most of Clinton's policies are very similar to most of mine.")
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To: Dudoight

Rudy would probably win and this Baptist guy is full of crap. Right off the bat, there's this huge disconnect between his statements about Rudy and the fact that he has Joe Liberman write the forward to the book.

We're all going to hear a lot of bluster from the far right griping about mainstream GOP candidates, just as we'll hear it from the far left about Hillary. It's all just political posturing and gamesmanship.


26 posted on 02/16/2007 5:34:55 AM PST by zook (America going insane - "Do you read Sutter Caine?)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Richard Land nails it.


27 posted on 02/16/2007 5:37:43 AM PST by don-o (Fight, fight. fight to drive the GOP to the right!!!!)
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Everyone vote for the Republican Theocratic Party.

After losing, let's all go wander in the desert for two generations.

28 posted on 02/16/2007 5:38:14 AM PST by Ben Ficklin
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To: zook
We're all going to hear a lot of bluster from the far right griping about mainstream GOP candidates

So, you think that support for partial birth abortion, abortion on demand, gun confiscation, gay marriage, an openly gay military, and gay adoption is "mainstream?" And that people who oppose that are "far right?" Did you click the wrong URL and find yourself on the wrong political forum?

29 posted on 02/16/2007 5:38:49 AM PST by Spiff (Rudy Giuliani Quote (NY Post, 1996) "Most of Clinton's policies are very similar to most of mine.")
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To: Old_Mil
In fact, if enoug of the undecideds decide to follow their convictions and vote for the Constitution Party in the general election, the constitution Party will outpoll the Pubbies.

You couldn't be more wrong and this is delusional thinking.

30 posted on 02/16/2007 5:39:04 AM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: Obie Wan
An old axiom from Dick Nixon.

In the primaries run to the right, in the general run towards the center.

When you're on a liberal like Rudy Giuliani, not running as something you are not, shows a willful effort to employ political expediency for all its worth.

31 posted on 02/16/2007 5:39:07 AM PST by Reagan Man (Conservatives don't vote for liberals.)
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To: zook

Ideologues are never ever happy and are always disconnected from the big picture.


32 posted on 02/16/2007 5:39:15 AM PST by tkathy (Sectarian violence? Or genocidal racists? Which is a better description of islamists?)
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To: zook

Rudy would probably win and this Baptist guy is full of crap.



Don't bet the farm on that statement.


33 posted on 02/16/2007 5:39:34 AM PST by WKB (Duncan Hunter: Finally a Republican I can vote for without holding my nose.)
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To: Dudoight
"So, if Rudy gets the GOP nomination we should all vote for the democrat?"

No, look for a Conservative to run either as a Constitution Party nominee or perhaps some other party.

34 posted on 02/16/2007 5:39:42 AM PST by TommyDale (What will Rudy do in the War on Terror? Implement gun control on insurgents and Al Qaeda?)
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To: Ben Ficklin
Everyone vote for the Republican Theocratic Party. After losing, let's all go wander in the desert for two generations.

Good swipe at conservative Christian Republicans there. So, how do you think your Christian-bashing strategy is going to work out in the long run?

35 posted on 02/16/2007 5:40:23 AM PST by Spiff (Rudy Giuliani Quote (NY Post, 1996) "Most of Clinton's policies are very similar to most of mine.")
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To: Spiff

This is one of the most intelligent analyses I have read. Land really understands social conservatives; Giuliani supporters don't have a clue.


36 posted on 02/16/2007 5:41:48 AM PST by JCEccles
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To: doc30
Thereby guaranteeing a victory for the dems at all levels.

Which is 100% on the Stupid Party.

37 posted on 02/16/2007 5:42:26 AM PST by don-o (Fight, fight. fight to drive the GOP to the right!!!!)
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To: Spiff

bump...


38 posted on 02/16/2007 5:42:33 AM PST by James Ewell Brown Stuart (I support the President and the war on terror!)
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To: Nathan Zachary

Southern Baptists are the core of the Religious Right, accompanied by Pentecostals and Charismatic independent mega churches. A few mega churches are liberal, however. A quick search will reveal the total number of "Evangelicals" that vote. If Rudy thinks he can win the election in 2008 by dissing those voters, more power to him.


39 posted on 02/16/2007 5:43:16 AM PST by TommyDale (What will Rudy do in the War on Terror? Implement gun control on insurgents and Al Qaeda?)
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To: Spiff

You're hysterical regarding these other issues. Abortion and gun rights will not change barely a lick under any current GOP candidate. They will, however, change dramatically under any Dem candidate.

If Rudy or McCain wins the GOP nod and you stay home or vote for some 3rd party, you're voting to lose gun rights, you're voting to expand abortion rights, and worst of all, you're voting to surrender in the WoT.


40 posted on 02/16/2007 5:44:57 AM PST by zook (America going insane - "Do you read Sutter Caine?)
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