Evangelical leader sizes up GOP field, says Giuliani’s campaign is doomed

The Hill ^ | 16 February 2007 | Sam Youngman

[Peach]

He always makes that charge and doesn't seem to mind it makes him look like a fool.

It's true that we have candidates send their supporters here to stir up dissent among the posters.

I must have been quite prescient to sign up in '98 so I could stump for the Rudy presidency in '07. ROFL

[Non-Sequitur]

Of Romney’s Mormon religion, Land said it’s not a “deal-killer.”

There's an evangelical pastor in a local suburban Kansas City church named Jerry Johnson that's been ranting against Mormonism for a couple of weeks now on his Sunday show and at his services, call it a false religion and not Christianity. If Romney becomes a serious candidate I wonder how many other evangelicals will follow his lead?

[finnman69]

oh oh add me

finnman69
Since Jul 11, 2001

[onyx]

I am Catholic, but I will vote for him over Hillary if he's the GOP nominee. She must be defeated.

[kalee]

I have voted for one democrat in my life, Sam Nunn.

[Corin Stormhands]

I must have been quite prescient to sign up in '98 so I could stump for the Rudy presidency in '07. ROFL

Yep, and I sure had 'em snookered with all that work I did for Jerry Kilgore and George Allen. Heck, I even spent a year making them think I was just interested in the religion wars.

It was all smoke and mirrors to get to Rudy.

[ridesthemiles]

I don't care what your religious beliefs are.

You will NOT get to practice any religion except ISLAM if we don't stop the madness these Radicals are trying to slap onto the entire world.

I don't entirely agree with Rudy on every subject, either, but I am trying not to be a one issue voter.
I want a President who "gets it" where the terrorists are concerned. I want someone who has already seen the work involved with running a major city or state, which he has done. I want someone who can make a decision and be aware that he cannot pander to the very few who are vocal, but must look at the bigger picture. He isn't perfect, but Gos save us from Hillary and her lying lips. I really don't want the Clintons to have another shot at cleaning items out of the White House, either. That behavior was about as tacky as a human can get. The media keeps giving both the Clintons a free pass. Time to give them a serious wedgie, IMO.

[Corin Stormhands]

my pleasure

[areafiftyone]

I must have been quite prescient to sign up in '98 so I could stump for the Rudy presidency in '07. ROFL

That was when you were on the psychic hotline right? ;-)

[Reagan Man]

Sorry. A picture of the 2004 GOP Convention is not gonna make me run out and support Rudy for the Pubbie nomination. That is silly.

How about what Rudy said in 1996 about not being invited to attend the GOP Convention in San Diego.

"If I take three or four days off from city business, I want to do it for a substantive purpose. It didn't seem to me any substantive purpose could be served by going to the Republican convention."

Sounds like sour grapes to me.

[Melas]

And those fundamentals also show Rudy will not be able to hold the party together if nominated.

How can he possibly win the nomination then? If his support is truly that shallow then he has absolutely no chance whatsoever of winning the nomination. Be honest now, you're not really convinced that he's going to lose the nomination are you? I just want one member of the [[Stop Rudy!]] gang to admit that they know his chances of getting the nod are terrific, and that's what has them so worried. Everyone knows that if he were truly doomed there wouldn't be any fuss, but I want to hear someone admit it anyway.

[Antoninus]

“If he wins, he’ll do so without social conservatives,” Land said.

True enough in my case.

[dirtboy]

Who says Rudy wants or needs the support of lunatics who preach young earth creationism or dismiss evolution?

What on earth makes you think Rudy can just toss aside large chunks of GOP support and run leftward as a pro-war nominee and pick up independent voters who are largely antiwar?

[Coldwater Creek]

I believe that it is the nature of Rudy and Newts divorces, and subsequent marriages.

[Antoninus]

So, if Rudy gets the GOP nomination we should all vote for the democrat? You gotta be kidding me?

No. That's what Rudy would do (and has done) if the Republican candidate wasn't to his liking. Social conservatives will do him one better and either vote 3rd party or stay home.

[BunnySlippers]

I was at the first Los Angeles Freeper meeting with Clinton is a Liar and others.

[Coldwater Creek]

I believe that it is the nature of Rudy and Newts divorces, and subsequent marriages that Dr. Land objects to.

[dirtboy]

Look at all of those lousy pro-abortion liberals and socialists holding up signs for Giuliani!

Funny, he wasn't the nominee.

[Peach]

ROFL!!!!!!!!

I'd forgotten about that psychic hotline portion of my long and varied career as an online poster for Rudy.

[JCEccles]

I've come to the conclusion that most Giuliani groupies support him precisely because he scratches their social liberal itch across a broad spectrum of social liberal issues. They detest social conservatives and they derisively call social conservatives "one issue voters" despite the fact that social conservatives reject Giuliani because he falls short on a dozen or more important issues, just as you point out.

And yet, rather than honestly admit that they like Giuliani because he is a flaming social liberal they cloak their reasoning with fatuous protestations that Giuliani either 1) is the "only" Republican who can win, or 2) he is the only candidate who can win the war on Terror?

If those aren't a "one issue" arguments, there is no such animal.