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1 posted on 02/15/2007 10:58:00 PM PST by Muentzer2005
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To: Muentzer2005

What do you want to bet he is offered an honorary doctorate and job at an American university upon his release?


2 posted on 02/15/2007 10:59:26 PM PST by volunbeer (Dear heaven.... we really need President Reagan again!)
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To: Muentzer2005

Europe has much to learn about freedom of speech from the USA.


3 posted on 02/15/2007 11:13:25 PM PST by TheDon (Are you a cut and run conservative?)
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He said he wanted "hard facts" and not just witness statements,

Would an active gas pipe into his cell count as "hard facts"?
5 posted on 02/15/2007 11:15:58 PM PST by gas0linealley
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Personally I think holocaust deniers are knuckleheads, but putting them in jail for it is just plain over the top.


16 posted on 02/15/2007 11:36:49 PM PST by abigailsmybaby
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"You might as well argue that the sun rises in the west, but you cannot change that the Holocaust has been proven," he said

Should a man be jailed because he argues that the sun rises in the west?
18 posted on 02/15/2007 11:37:05 PM PST by billybudd
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FReepers are wrongfully looking at this from an American viewpoint.

Nazism, WWII and the Holocaust have been by far Germany's worst moment in their history. They are rightfully, willing to do whatever it takes to make sure those times never set upon them again. By the end of World War II their country laid in ruins and they are willing to jail anyone who hints at bringing an ideology that could once again be destructive to their country.

Free speech brings personal responsibility with it. Holocaust denial is in many ways not free speech. Free speech means you can have an opinion, but not necessarily that you can deny a horrible fact and in doing so you in fact advocate another genocide since you do not even recognize the first one.

"Death and life are in the power of the tongue". Proverbs 18:21


21 posted on 02/15/2007 11:48:35 PM PST by kress
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It takes a Nazi to jail someone for simply disagreeing on what crimes a Nazi committed.

Its ironic really. If the German government will imprison you for having improper thoughts and writing them down...imagine what they will do to people who have an improper heritage.

Essentially, the German government facistist acts here, prove they are are quite capable of doing what this writer denies.

It seems that the seeds of the next totalitarian German government are quite healthy.



29 posted on 02/16/2007 12:06:44 AM PST by dman4384
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How soon might we see the German government demand the extradition of Iran's little runt, the mini-fuehrer Ahmadinejad?

He's been denying the Holocaust for years, and just held his F-the-Jews Festival in Tehran, how about that, eh?


35 posted on 02/16/2007 12:32:52 AM PST by mkjessup (If Reagan were still with us, he'd ask us to "win one more for the Gipper, vote for Duncan Hunter!")
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He should be allowed to write that Martians killed Jews if he wants to. Sending someone to prison for their beliefs is far more outrageous than any opinion he holds.


39 posted on 02/16/2007 1:09:29 AM PST by ArcadeQuarters
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His sentence was well deserved. I don't consider group libel "free speech." I consider it incitement to genocide.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

41 posted on 02/16/2007 1:20:07 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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"...for the crime of Holocaust denial..."

Is this what Germany is about? Jailing people for their thoughts, no matter what they may be? Seems almost like the Nazis never left that country.


42 posted on 02/16/2007 2:01:23 AM PST by NapkinUser (Free Ramos and Compean! Disbarment for the Nifong-wannabe Johnny Sutton.)
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Please forgive me for the reminder, but you might want to see the post. Then try to have a peaceful evening and forget about the news for a day.
50 posted on 02/16/2007 4:39:46 AM PST by familyop (Essayons)
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So long as he wasn't advocating or inciting violence, he should of been allowed to speak. If he believes what he does, then others do. Putting him in jail does not refute what he said. It only makes it look as if the government is hiding something, and in fact they are, this man and his views. The silencing of him is enough for some people to believe him.
51 posted on 02/16/2007 4:44:42 AM PST by Leisler (REAL ENVIRONMENTALISTS WALK.)
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I can't believe what my pupils read this morning.

Today freedom of speech and uttering the truth is a crime; tomorrow our very thoughts will be punished as well as a crime.

And then people wonder what's wrong with Europe, the USA and the rest of the Western world.


55 posted on 02/16/2007 5:04:17 AM PST by baubau
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How many times does it have to be explained to people that the Holocaust began with speech, with demonizing Jews in print, which is why Julius Streicher, the infamous publisher of the Nazi propaganda paper Dur Sturmer was convicted at Nuremberg. Certain European countries have laws in place to punish Holocaust denial for a very valid reason. Why do some people immediately jump in to defend scum like Ernst Zundel??


58 posted on 02/16/2007 5:21:35 AM PST by veronica (Duncan Donuts 08...)
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Did Six Million Really Die?

No it was more like 10-12 million, counting Slavs, Gypsies, etc.
59 posted on 02/16/2007 5:22:51 AM PST by Little Ray
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Holocaust denial writer jailed for five years

What the media and the government "scientists" want:

Global warming denial writer jailed for five years


60 posted on 02/16/2007 5:24:43 AM PST by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government)
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Ironically, Europe never learned a lesson after WW2.....freedom of speech and freedom not to listen!!!


66 posted on 02/16/2007 5:38:19 AM PST by KenmcG414
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This is what will eventually happen to anti global warming authors.


83 posted on 02/16/2007 6:19:17 AM PST by word_warrior_bob (You can now see my amazing doggie and new puppy on my homepage!! Come say hello to Jake & Sonny)
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If the newspapers of today are directing their negative reporting towards certain groups as was done in the 30's and 40's in Germany/Italy? And if we look at who is the target of these articles, will we be able to predict the victims of the next Holocaust? Just a thought.


85 posted on 02/16/2007 6:21:54 AM PST by Garvin ("Who Elected The Media Anyway?")
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