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Does that make me an anti-Rudy zealot?

No! Not at all. Heck, I'm not a pro-Rudy zealot. But what is being said against him on this forum is ridiculous. Do you think RG performs abortions?

Everything changed on 9/11, Shrew. Especially, Rudy changed.

I guess it boils down to whatever the number 1 issue is to you.

I'm pro-life, I have a concealed/carry permit, I own 3 guns. I understand the Constitution, and I know that a President cannot confiscate my glocks. I also know that a President cannot declare abortions illegal, and stop them immediately. Most importantly, I understand a President has control of the execution of the war on terror.

As far as biblical references, I mean, that's a criteria??

Again... I am not on the Giuliani team, but he could take on the CiC job, no doubt.

The man's mettle has been tested, and he just might be the right man for this time in our country's history.

It's like I said, I like a lot of what you have posted on this thread.

As far as biblical references, I mean, that's a criteria??

It's a criterion for me. What I am saying is that I want a leader with a conscience. My referral to Biblical References is that I want an indication of a conscience, a guiding philosophy, core beliefs other than just the belief in that "I am capable and I am gifted. Follow me."

Again... I am not on the Giuliani team, but he could take on the CiC job, no doubt.

I think he could take on the CIC Job. I would just rather see him as SECDEF with someone holding his leash so to speak.

Do you think RG performs abortions?

Everything changed on 9/11, Shrew. Especially, Rudy changed.

I guess it boils down to whatever the number 1 issue is to you.

No. I don't think RG performs abortions. I think much less changed on 9/11 than I wanted to change. I changed on 10/23/83 it took the rest of the country nearly 18 years to catch up to me! The democrats - all of them - scare me worse than the Taliban. As far as I'm concerned they're on the same side! The democrats didn't change on 9/11. They're back to the same playbook they've been using since 1963.

Hopefully, I'll 'debate' rationally, courteously and effectively. A month is a lifetime in politics. Rudy is the Flavor of the month. Let's talk in March. We can have this discussion again.

Regards,