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Deseret News hits "ultraconservative" websites for suggesting Salt Lake shooting was jihad-motivated
JihadWatch.org ^ | 15Februrary 2007 | Robert

Posted on 02/15/2007 9:59:22 AM PST by NraFreedom

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To: ApplegateRanch

One word. Zebra.

http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Printable.asp?ID=3693


81 posted on 02/15/2007 12:32:17 PM PST by Liberty Ship ("Lord, make me fast and accurate.")
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To: Liberty Ship

BTTT


82 posted on 02/15/2007 12:35:59 PM PST by Unicorn (Too many wimps around.)
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To: dan1123
A misinterpretation of the establishment clause you mean.

It doesn't look like that is going to be corrected either. And if you are a believer, you know that the future doesn't look good for a Christian in this country, or any other for that matter. In fact, the "great revolt" began a long time ago, and things are only going to get worse.

83 posted on 02/15/2007 12:37:11 PM PST by Nathan Zachary
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To: JB in Whitefish
"Oh, and it's no surprise to ME that folks like yourself are all "up to date" on European and Islamic history but know NOTHING of your own country in the 20th century. Like for instance how my family members were literally HUNTED HERE by German immigrants who thinly veiled their NaZi leanings."

MY ancestors were dropped out of bell towers in France, does that give me the right to jump on a plane and shoot at people in France today? How far will you go back with these "history lessons" to prove that these people deserved to die? Are we all to pay for yesterdays offenses by our ancestors? If that is the case then blow up the entire planet now because no one is innocent....no not one.

You are trying to teach history as a boogyman to current events. The only one hunting anyone was the person who did the killing. Period.

84 posted on 02/15/2007 12:37:23 PM PST by Earthdweller (All reality is based on faith in something.)
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To: NraFreedom; Nathan Zachary
..... it is our responsibility to take actions and stop the cycle from our neighborhoods and country.

The ironic fact is that it was the attack on Serbia by NATO, that was largely powered by the America of William Jefferson Blyth Clinton. Both sides were guilty of atrocities. The hiss of female anchors at the time still rankles. "Ethnic cleansing". Again and again. They meant the luckless Serbs, were doing that. It was in fact, that the Bosnian Muslims were being backed by NATO. Could not this suicidal fool SEE?

Post #46. Mention of the Lepine rampage in Canada. His name was Gamil Rodrigue Gharbi. Father, Algerian. Mother, Canadian-Monique Lepine. Every year on the anniversary of the 14 dead women, the feminists have their candle light vigils. The great staring, mock tragic faces. Stop the violence against women.

An off duty police officer was sitting in his mini-van, when two lesbians jumped in. One stabbed him to death. They had been give two months rent money to re-locate. They blew it in one week, returned to Toronto. We have had three stabbing this year in our old town, women on men. Non- fatal.

So it goes- sigh.

85 posted on 02/15/2007 12:37:57 PM PST by Peter Libra
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To: GATOR NAVY

It is common for editors to use the EXACT quotes from people adding "sic" following spelling and grammatical mistakes. It is VERY uncommon for them not to do this.

The author's claim is idiotic as anyone with any editorial experience will tell you and this says NOTHING about political motivation. Rather his claim comes from a paranoid view and defensiveness.

Sic. "Thus, so. Used in written texts to indicate that a surprising or paradoxical word, phrase, or fact is not a mistake and is to be read as it stands." The use in the article is the way editors are taught to use it. Of course, its use does point out strangeness but that is not its intent.


86 posted on 02/15/2007 12:40:50 PM PST by justshutupandtakeit (Defeat Hillary's V'assed Left Wing Conspiracy)
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To: dan1123
"Leftists are not "Anti-Religion", they are anti-Christian. They just use the claim of the establishment clause as a bludgeon over the head of Christianity. All other religions get a pass."

Oh..believe me the atheists that make up 50% of DU would argue with you about that. It's called divide and conquerer. Would you go after all religions at once or would you bring down one at a time?

Remember....they want us to be like Europe.

87 posted on 02/15/2007 12:44:07 PM PST by Earthdweller (All reality is based on faith in something.)
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To: ApplegateRanch

There were eight people quoted. Two had mistakes and were not that different in sentiment than some of those quoted which did not. Thus, this statement is not correct "The implied message of the article writer is that only poor spellers, who also do not use proper grammer and punctuation, think in such un-PC terms." Un PC sentiments without mistakes were quoted as well.


88 posted on 02/15/2007 12:47:28 PM PST by justshutupandtakeit (Defeat Hillary's V'assed Left Wing Conspiracy)
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To: Nathan Zachary

I agree, but the people who come here NOW are hailed by the Leftist scum for being "diverse" and every effort [seemingly] by the government is designed to assuage them and make them "right" in all situations.

I'm well aware of the warlord mentality of Mohammed.


89 posted on 02/15/2007 12:47:54 PM PST by JB in Whitefish
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To: Earthdweller

Nice job of reading YOUR bias into MY statements.

Have you considered politics....???


90 posted on 02/15/2007 12:49:23 PM PST by JB in Whitefish
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To: Nathan Zachary

I didn't say they legitimately used the establishment clause. However, until we can get the Supreme Court to be something other than a super-legislature, the establishment clause will continue to be redefined for the country.

If Congress wants to remain in any sort of power, they should impeach justices much more readily when they stray into legislation.


91 posted on 02/15/2007 12:49:51 PM PST by dan1123
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To: JB in Whitefish

As I state in my post, the neighbors have said that the shooter was virtually a hermit. To me that implies isolation.

I do not "hate" anyone; especially this person. I am sorry you interrpreted my post as "hate."

Well, I don't know what to say about your Polish anything. I am not glib nor am I ignorant to my country's anything. I stay "up to date" as you put it for a reason.

BTW, Have a nice day.


92 posted on 02/15/2007 12:58:50 PM PST by NraFreedom (Mr. Clinton, and John Kerry, should be charged, convicted and shot for the crime of Treason.)
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To: NraFreedom
There is no record

That's because the MSM refuses to ask the questions.

93 posted on 02/15/2007 1:00:43 PM PST by colorado tanker
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To: Peter Libra
Actually, Clinton went in bombing before he had NATO backing. He did what Lefties claim Bush did (but didn't) Clinton bombed Serbian civilians, he unilaterally began an invasion of Serbia without a UN resolution.
The "ethnic cleansing" cries from media were sickening and untrue, there was no- and there still isn't any evidence of- "mass graves" and such. Yes, there were some instances of brutality, but as you correctly point out, this occurred on both sides. What Pro-Clinton media didn't mention was that it was Islamic terrorism that precipitated the actions of the Serbs.

As always, the Muslims are good at playing the victim while being the agressor, and are good at manipulating media, creating false stories. Just like the "mass graves" at Jenin, they showed through the media old bones dug up from old graves. Amazing how fast the flesh decomposes when there is an atrocity committed against poor peacefull Islamic victims.

94 posted on 02/15/2007 1:01:37 PM PST by Nathan Zachary
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To: ApplegateRanch
The usage of the sics is correct, but they also are used to send the more subtle message, in that the writer could probably have used other examples that did not need any sics added for publication.

Correct that is a possible reason those emails were selected. Some posters here are stupid and/or stubborn and will never admit what you say could be correct. They will just try to obscure the issue with faulty logical arguments. Your better off ignoring them from the beginning because you will end up having to give up and ignoring them later anyway.

95 posted on 02/15/2007 1:02:48 PM PST by On the Road to Serfdom
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To: justshutupandtakeit
Sic. "Thus, so. Used in written texts to indicate that a surprising or paradoxical word, phrase, or fact is not a mistake and is to be read as it stands." The use in the article is the way editors are taught to use it. Of course, its use does point out strangeness but that is not its intent.

Sic semper editus.

96 posted on 02/15/2007 1:03:40 PM PST by ApplegateRanch (Islam: a Satanically Transmitted Disease, spread by unprotected intimate contact with the Koranus.)
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To: NraFreedom

Deseret is not 'MSM.' It's an agency of the LDS church, and that makes the story all the more troubling.


97 posted on 02/15/2007 1:06:20 PM PST by editor-surveyor
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To: editor-surveyor
Sorry to disappoint you. Deseret News is MSM. And You will be glad to know that the LDS church divested itself of the newspaper years ago. Hence, the liberal/fascist views.
98 posted on 02/15/2007 1:09:27 PM PST by NraFreedom (Mr. Clinton, and John Kerry, should be charged, convicted and shot for the crime of Treason.)
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To: On the Road to Serfdom
Your better off ignoring them from the beginning because you will end up having to give up and ignoring them later anyway.

True; but pushing buttons can be fun, too.

99 posted on 02/15/2007 1:10:40 PM PST by ApplegateRanch (Islam: a Satanically Transmitted Disease, spread by unprotected intimate contact with the Koranus.)
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To: NraFreedom

Thanks for the update.


100 posted on 02/15/2007 1:13:56 PM PST by editor-surveyor
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