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Deseret News hits "ultraconservative" websites for suggesting Salt Lake shooting was jihad-motivated
JihadWatch.org ^ | 15Februrary 2007 | Robert

Posted on 02/15/2007 9:59:22 AM PST by NraFreedom

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I have been watching the news coverage of the shooting two days ago at Trolley Square here in Salt Lake City. The liberals who control the “main stream” media (MSM) in this country as well as the local news outlets are all wondering why this happened. As I have seen things unfold I have been impressed with the reason why.

This shooter came to the United States at the age of nine from Bosnia. He and his family came here to find a better life. However, I have noticed the same pattern here in this local event that has repeated itself world wide.

The first thing I noticed was that this family “isolated” itself from the community, with the exception of working. A neighbor said of the shooter that he was kind of a hermit and that neighbors did not know him at all. This is what the community of Islam does when it immigrates to the West; they isolate themselves from the western culture into which they have chosen to locate.

Because of this need to isolate, these immigrants congregate into the low income areas of the West and take these areas over. The area of Salt Lake that the shooter lived in is low income and filled with gangs, drugs and so forth. This gives a Muslim an opportunity to find fault with the “wickedness” around him. Just the location that the Muslim chooses sets him up for dissatisfaction with the world around him. The isolation becomes more acute and the dissatisfaction grows; it is a vicious cycle.

As this young man grew up, he obviously spent his time of isolation reading the Qur’an. It is my opinion that the shooter found his religion and decided that he wanted to become what the Prophet Mohammad describes as the highest calling of a true believer of Islam: a jihadi; an armed fighter for Allah.

The teachings of Mohammad go on to offer to a jihadi the promise of shihad, or martyr of Allah: seventy-two untouched virgins, whose virginity is without end, as well as young boys; food and water so abundant that the water flows unceasingly in fountains. And of course this is all to be had in the “paradise” of the next life. Any war torn youth would value this reward; indeed anyone who grew up in the desert would do the same.

It is these teachings of Mohammad that allow a young Muslim to strap explosives to himself and set the explosives off without a second thought; or as was done here in Salt Lake City, allows one with all of life before him to give it all up and walk through a mall, emotionless, loading his weapon, firing and reloading only to fire again. Like so many young Muslims before him, this shooter wanted to take as many with him as he could. There is no doubt about that.

And so the “war against the infidel of the west” goes on. I find no rational reason for asking why: pattern and the cycle keeps repeating in front of our eyes. It is our responsibility to see the circle, recognize it and the threat it poses to our way of life; it is our responsibility to take actions to stop the threat and remove the cycle from our neighborhoods and country.

1 posted on 02/15/2007 9:59:31 AM PST by NraFreedom
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To: NraFreedom

I am outraged that Deseret News did not even mention FreeRepublic.com


2 posted on 02/15/2007 10:01:31 AM PST by Alouette (Learned Mother of Zion)
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To: Alouette

We need to be like Avis and Try Harder!


3 posted on 02/15/2007 10:02:53 AM PST by Constitution Day
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To: Alouette

Bosnian Muslim Massacring People in Trolley Square in Utah.



A video has become available, taken by someone hiding in a gift shop:

http://kutv.com/topstories/local_story_044000331.html

A bit past midway through, does anyone else hear what sounds like "Allah-hu akbar! Allah-hu akbar!" - just after one of the cops shouts "Police"?





http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/015245.php





http://www.rayra.net/5th_Columnists/Jihadists/Sudden_Jihad_Syndrome/sudden_jihad_syndrome.html




4 posted on 02/15/2007 10:03:08 AM PST by Vaquero ("An armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: NraFreedom

Islamism until demonstrated otherwise.


5 posted on 02/15/2007 10:03:17 AM PST by onedoug
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To: NraFreedom

What this Islamofascist did is identical to what the doomsayers said might happen. Muslim goes to a shopping mall and commits mayhem.

You can't tell me it was just coincidence.


6 posted on 02/15/2007 10:03:27 AM PST by Brilliant
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To: NraFreedom

That the one very plausible explanation for this man's behavior is rapidly dismissed, out of hand, for a breezy "we have no explanation" tells me all I need to know. It's PC-ism.


7 posted on 02/15/2007 10:04:01 AM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: NraFreedom
There is no record that Talovic attended any of the mosques in the Salt Lake area, according to both Tarek Mosseir, a spokesman for the Islamic Society of Greater Salt Lake, or Bobby Ravish of Muslim Forum.

That's nice. Are local LEOS gonna take their word for it, or trust but verify?

8 posted on 02/15/2007 10:04:28 AM PST by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: NraFreedom

How about the fact that if he was a Christian and had shouted "Jesus is great" or the like it would have been the first thing mentioned?


9 posted on 02/15/2007 10:05:15 AM PST by dleecomeback07 (Pitchers and catchers report February 15th)
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To: Alouette

What is so inane is that the MSM will never deal with Muslim citizens or non-citizens who shoot up the joint as possible jihadists. The point is, the PC idea that Islam is peace is malarky. Hopefully, the public will realize this and treat American Muslims on a one by one perception. Still, with the idea that Islam is not peace and has been used by over 300,000 000 million of the 1.4 billion Muslims to kill , murder, blow up, destroy , torture not only fellow Muslims but Gentiles and Jews and anybody in between who gets in their imperialist ways.


10 posted on 02/15/2007 10:06:30 AM PST by phillyfanatic
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To: Alouette
I am outraged that Deseret News did not even mention FreeRepublic.com

What are we, chopped liver?

11 posted on 02/15/2007 10:06:35 AM PST by dfwgator (The University of Florida - Championship U)
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To: Alouette

If a Christian would have gone into a mosque or a halal meat store and shot 4 or 5 people it would have been plastered all over the news as a hate crime or a 'right wing milita' born plot.......


12 posted on 02/15/2007 10:06:36 AM PST by Vaquero ("An armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: NraFreedom
Truth hurts...Deal with it.


13 posted on 02/15/2007 10:08:24 AM PST by darkwing104 (Let's get dangerous)
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To: NraFreedom

What a dumb article. The writer doesn't even understand why "sic" is used in quoting someone.


14 posted on 02/15/2007 10:09:44 AM PST by justshutupandtakeit (Defeat Hillary's V'assed Left Wing Conspiracy)
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To: Vaquero
It didn't take long for the media to shift the focus from the dead infidels to the "real" victims.
15 posted on 02/15/2007 10:10:41 AM PST by Alouette (Learned Mother of Zion)
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To: Brilliant

I listened for the allah akbar, but the echo in the mall is so great I couldn't make it out.


16 posted on 02/15/2007 10:11:41 AM PST by bicyclerepair (Living in Beautiful Ft. Lauderdale)
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To: NraFreedom
It is impossible to understand the authorities and press in the United states actively downplaying that this act, and others, are the result of unassimilated Muslims that choose to live in a society they resent and hate.

The French, certainly no strangers to PC thought, openly decalare that Muslim violence in the suburbs of Paris are the result of the unassimilated immigrants clustering together in the outskirts and making no attempt to adopt the French culture. Their individual alienation is reinforced by the group and violence becomes a predictable outlet.

Hell, I know what its feel like to be unassimilated. I'm a conservative in Seattle.

17 posted on 02/15/2007 10:12:40 AM PST by HardStarboard (The Democrats are more afraid of American Victory than Defeat!)
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To: mewzilla
That's nice. Are local LEOS gonna take their word for it, or trust but verify?

Does it matter? Do we ever see anything like "there is no record that the white man who verbally harassed a black man at work attended any KKK meetings"?

18 posted on 02/15/2007 10:14:00 AM PST by jiggyboy (Ten per cent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: mewzilla

"we have no explanation"

says they do in fact have an explanation, they just don't want to touch it with a 10 foot pole..unfortunately, these mass murders will continue until we as a nation stand up and decide to put a name to this..


19 posted on 02/15/2007 10:14:21 AM PST by GeorgiaDawg32 (I'm a Patriot Guard Rider..www.patriotguard.org for info..)
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To: Alouette

Being Bosnian isn't the problem... but being MUSLIM from ANYWHERE... is the root of OUR problem.


20 posted on 02/15/2007 10:14:54 AM PST by johnny7 ("We took a hell of a beating." -'Vinegar Joe' Stilwell)
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