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To: Paul Ross
Since every single one of us are consumers of imported goods and some services, maybe we'd all be encouraged to take a look. Economic barriers -- except in some extremely rare instances when dangerous weapons and weapon systems are involved -- are just just plain idiotic. Of course, you and I have gone 'round and around on this particular issue to no avail, but still I cannot (and will not) stress this enough.
110 posted on 02/15/2007 5:17:49 PM PST by LowCountryJoe (I'm a Paleo-liberal: I believe in freedom; am socially independent and a borderline fiscal anarchist)
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To: LowCountryJoe
Economic barriers -- except in some extremely rare instances when dangerous weapons and weapon systems are involved -- are just just plain idiotic

Those dangerous weapons and weapons systems are easily produced with the wholesale lax export of the underlying civilian technology which makes them possible. And those are not rare instances. In every case, the libertarians squint and scofflaw, and would rubber-stamp those sales.

Thank God, Reagan knew better...and didn't allow that, and the result was that he successfully throttled the Soviet Empire. The underlying battle of economies was won...because our economy was deep, robust, and heavy-duty...not merely producing software and liesure products. [ Laura Ingrahm skewered John Fund this morning, and it was pretty decisive against him. ]

The Chinese export policies since Reagan are pretty much totally under the control of the libertarians. And we have a vastly mushrooming military threat, our own military is MEASURABLY imploding (whether by political decree or actual economic decline), and the loss of the heavy industry foundation for restoring the lost military muscle is becoming more serious all the time...with a 10 year Gap in restoring our machine tools for example according to the Defense Industry...all on your guys watch.

And you have done everything possible to undermine real defense conservatives who would have thwarted these hemmhorrages.

Thanks, Libertarians!

115 posted on 02/16/2007 7:28:14 AM PST by Paul Ross (Ronald Reagan-1987:"We are always willing to be trade partners but never trade patsies.")
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To: LowCountryJoe
Since every single one of us are consumers of imported goods and some services...

Almost Mathematically certain if you buy stuff at a Big Box retailer nowadays, with the import deficit over $800 billion nowadays...meanwhile the apologists boast about our slightly increased exports.

Keep your eye on the ball. What is happening to the most clear-cut case of comparative advantage the U.S. possesses? I.e., the aerospace industry.

Boeing, as a business necessity, is being forced to abdicate its highly-efficient U.S. production, all to garner markets, and gain less-expensive risk financing. Hence it will outsource almost 65% of the next-generation plane ...the 787. With heavy foreign-state-sponsored risk-aid in order, all in exchange for their share of the gravy...and a long-term transfer of U.S. production capabilities to foreign.

And what was that business necessity? This strategy was needful to combat a predatory Euorpoean Union's...basically French...subsidized attack on the commercial plane industry... An attack where every single Airbus plane they sell is priced 30% below its real costs. And the Libertarians love the "competition" and run interfeerence for Airbus here. They won't allow anything to be done to re-level the playing field. "Nope, can't have barriers." But's its evidently okay for the foreigners...we just will look the other way. What result? Now, the private-sector commercial plane manufacturers McDonnell-Douglas and Lockheed are completely out of the game. And what's left in the U.S., Boeing is being extorted due to the Airbus pressue to have to outsource.

Yup, that's a formula for long-term success. Sell the seed-corn, just to say you have business.

117 posted on 02/16/2007 7:57:45 AM PST by Paul Ross (Ronald Reagan-1987:"We are always willing to be trade partners but never trade patsies.")
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To: LowCountryJoe
The fact remains that in spite of the best efforts US forces and their Blessed M1 Garand and help from our allies, the leading cause of death amongst the Communist forces in Korea was cold and hunger. Sometimes the term 'exposure' is used as a catchall to describe the casualties from these elements.

I think the Chinese through the help of our trading policies have now overcome this risk factor to their forces, plus.

Now if we lived in a perfect world where communism and greed were just memories of old men, that would be one thing.

But we seem to be the same humans with the same wants, needs and fears that we were in 1950.

If the destruction of the satellite by the Chinese didn't awaken America, then nothing will.

125 posted on 02/25/2007 1:32:29 PM PST by investigateworld (These Border Patrol guys will do more time than a Jap POW Camp commander,thanks W)
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