Posted on 02/14/2007 3:53:46 PM PST by The Blitherer
ABCs Jennifer Rubin thinks she knows. According to her report, Mitt Romney announcing his candidacy yesterday at a museum named for Henry Ford has a lot to do with it:
Indeed, the incident may say something not only about Romney but about the GOP's problem with Jews. In his boatload of advisers, Romney apparently did not have anyone to say, "You know, a lot of Jews really hate Ford, and it might mess up your message.
A few points here to counter Rubins hyperbole. At this moment, Romney has less a boatful of advisors than a handful. And, for what its worth, among that handful, my lantzmen are amply represented. Furthermore, most Jews dont know about Henry Fords anti-Semitism and those that do couldnt give a rats tuchas about it anyway.
Whats more, obviously Henry Fords fame doesnt derive from his anti-Semitism. Romneys announcement venue was as much of an issue (to all but the most hyper-sensitive Jews) as a photo-op in front of the Spirit of St. Louis would have been. Like Ford, Charles Lindberghs fame had nothing to do with his anti-Semitism. Now if Romney made an appearance at the next Leni Riefenstahl film festival, that would be noteworthy.
As an additional point of note, Ive heard many Jews say they would never consider driving a German car as payback for the Holocaust. I have never heard a Jew say he wouldnt drive a Ford, unless it related to the execrable quality of their vehicles. (In my younger days, I too used to say I would never drive a German car. When my financial situation changed, I amended that guideline to the only slightly less principled, Ill never drive a Volkswagen.)
The ginned up controversy over Romneys venue is hysterical, the kind of eye-roll inducing Jewish protest that makes me want to say to the complainers, There are some very nasty people who want to exterminate 6 million of our co-religionists. Dont we have bigger fish to fry?
The complaints have come from the usual outraged suspects I believe Alan Dershowitz is leading the charge this time. I love Dersh, but hes always annoyed over some perceived slight. Dersh, Abe Foxman, Rabbi Heir whenever these guys enter righteous outrage mode, its by nature a classic dog-bites-man story.
But lets just say for the sake of ridiculous argument that the Republican Party is habitually not sensitive enough to the Jewish communitys concerns. The Democrats are better? Need I remind you that during the Democrats last presidential primary season, a so-called Reverend who had organized a virtual pogrom a few years earlier graced the stage at every debate. Since 2004, the Democratic extreme fringe has eagerly equated Zionism to systematic bigotry. The Grey Eminence of the Party, James Earl Carter himself, recently published a dreadful book that ludicrously asserted that Israel is an apartheid state. And, oh yeah, Wesley Clark just last week made a reference to how American foreign policy is dictated by New York moneymen with proboscises of unmentioned size.
In short, if you want to find the reason for the Republican failure to do better with the Jews, I guess you could choose to blame it on insufficient Republican sensitivity. But youll look pretty dumb if you do.
SO WHY DO JEWS VOTE FOR DEMOCRATS?
I think Im in a unique position to answer that question since not only are some of my best friends Jewish, I too am Jewish. There are two main reasons: First, the social issues drive Jews into the Democrats sweaty embrace; second, its a tribal thing.
As far as the social issues are concerned, most Jews are liberal. Very liberal. Theyre pro-choice, and theyre very concerned about the separation between church and state. These are serious matters for them. When Bush won re-election, I called to taunt one of my liberal friends, and she launched into a tirade that I think had something to do with back-alley abortions and legalizing date-rape. The American Jewish community in general is very uncomfortable with the virtually every position the Republicans hold on social issues.
And then theres the church-and-state thing. Jews are concerned about being a powerless minority. The Holocaust haunts them; for a lot of Jews, it still lingers as a cautionary tale of how quickly and totally things can go south even in a society into which theyve fully assimilated. Thats why nativity scenes and prayers at football games tend to elicit such a visceral reaction from some Jews. These things are reminders of the Jews minority status, and thus what they perceive as their vulnerability. (Im not saying any of this is rational I dont think it is. Im just being descriptive here.)
The other reason so many Jews vote reflexively and exclusively Democrat is because its a tribal thing. Their grandparents voted only for Democrats. So too their parents. Many of todays Jews are going to do the same thing.
Ive had conversations with Jews whose primary concern is Israels well-being. I point out to them that Israel has never had a better friend than George W. Bush. Objectively, that fact is unassailable. And yet Jews who are tribal Democrats refuse to even engage the issue. The notion that George Bush, an Evangelical Christian of all things, is a friend to Israel is so far outside their conceptual framework they cant process it. They lack the bandwidth.
So what can Republicans do about this? Pretty much nothing. These things take decades to change. The attitude of the far left to Israel will drive some Jews to consider voting Republican, but nowhere near a majority. The South took a century after the Civil War to even consider supporting Republicans.
Like I said, these things take time.
Wrong. Ghetto is a perjorative at its worst, and at its best indicates a forced living situation brought about by social or economic conditions. I don't know of any Jews that deliberately seek out neighborhoods based on how many other Jews live there. And I bet you don't either.
If I was wrong about you, I apologize.
Don't know any Jews because they live in ghettos in Miami, New York and LA; or don't know any Christians because I live in a ghetto?
Yes and no.
You typically end up with "Jewish" neighborhoods because: (1) you walk to shul --- ergo, you live by it; (2) shops that cater to your needs (e.g., kosher restaurants, butcher) logically locate close by; and (3) eruv points (related to sabbath activities) are expensive and hard to keep up, so you keep them in close proximity.
Relative to Orthodox perhaps, which is only 15%-20% of the Jewish population. And even they have contact with the "outside" world.
I am your counterexample: An urban-dwelling (NYC!) Ashkenazi Jew who is Republican. ;)
The dispositive variable, in my experience, is age. Pre-war New York City Jews are not unlike pre-war New York City buildings.
You are exactly right. Being LEFT, NOT JEWISH is the controlling variable.
I always vote Republican and I can tell you that many, if not most, Orthodox Jews also do. There are exceptions in local races when they believe the DemocRat will do more for them on their issues. I was disgusted by the support Hillary got from some communities in her first Senate bid which looked like a deal to get clemency for some white collar criminals.
Go forth and multiply!
I'm a Jewish Republican, and I am much angrier about the tens of millions the Ford Foundation gives away every year to ultra-left wing causes than about what Henry Ford thought about Jews.
I'm tryin', I'm tryin'. (Blush)
Actually, my son, 13 years old knows I will disown him if he even thinks about voting for Rats. He's a rock-ribbed conservative all the way.
"Actually, my son, 13 years old knows I will disown him if he even thinks about voting for Rats. He's a rock-ribbed conservative all the way"
Well, your 13 year old has a wise parent to guide him to the truth. Maybe Mark Levin will let him apprentice : )
"Maybe Mark Levin will let him apprentice"
Ya Know we've been practicing "get off my phone, you dope" and know all the politician's nicknames by heart (except we don't say the Chuckie Schumer nickname out loud, being Orthodox Jews) so maybe you got something there...
BTW, you know a lot of Jewish people do look at these candidates and support them based on their attitude/voting on Israel. I'm not totally indifferent, either. But unless the Republican is awful regarding Israel, I don't care how wonderful the Dem is if he's busy picking my pocket, weakening our borders and military, expanding homosexual and other special victim rights and generally using the constitution for toilet paper. In that case, I prefer to trust Israel to the very good care of the Almighty and cast my vote for someone who doesn't trample all my religious principals as well as my proud Americanism.
I picked Mark because he most closely resembles what I would be like if, by some ironic twist of fate, I was allowed to be a radio talk show host : )
I am not Jewish, but I support Israel because they are a good ally,a free country, and deserve to be protected from raghead terrorists who want to
"pasture-ize" Israel just because it is full of Jews.
Anyone whose "primary concern is Israel's well-being" will not care much about the national interest of the U.S., except case-by-case. Nor will such a person care much about the inner rot in the U.S., in terms of both statism and cultural catastrophe.
I just found this message, sorry for the delay. I am guessing you meant to respond to someone else's post, because I don't remember posting to you at all. In any event, if you are posting to me, what is a "morah"? Is it English? If it is an insult, why on earth are you trying to offend me? At any rate, I don't know you, so you cannot hurt me. Have a great day.
It means, "teacher." I'll explain in a private message.
And BTW (by the way), I was complaining about too many people generalizing too much about "Jews."
One word: tradition.
Ok, thanks.
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