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Wow. We have idiots for judges:

"If that's what the Supreme Court is going to say (in any ruling on an appeal), they might as well say the government's not entitled to a fair trial and the defendant is,"

Reality Check: The Governmnet isn't ON TRIAL! Only the defendent is on trial, so of course only the defendent has trial rights. The Government has a responsibility to follow the law and behave ethically, which they have manafestly failed to do in this case.

The sickness of our legal system is incapsulated in the judges remark. The legal system is not a football game, with both sides entitled to the same rules.

The legal system is weighted for the defense, as well it should be. If Libby loses he goes to jail, loses his ability to earn a living, and pays crushing fines.

If the Prosecution loses Fitz goes on to the next case, goes home to his wife, and probably gets a big raise from his boss for dragging Bush through the muck with such creative prosecution.

1 posted on 02/14/2007 11:50:27 AM PST by Jack Black
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In DC, they may end up putting the defense team in jail too for having the gall to defend someone from the administration.


2 posted on 02/14/2007 11:52:48 AM PST by aynrandfreak (Who would turn out better if we split into two separate countries based on the '04 Presidential Map?)
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Judge is pissed the trial is going too well for Libby.


3 posted on 02/14/2007 11:52:49 AM PST by RightOnTheLeftCoast ([Hunter/Rumsfeld 2008!])
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To: the Real fifi; Laverne; onyx; Howlin; SE Mom; Grampa Dave; samadams2000; popdonnelly; ...

Troublesome Scooter Ping ~~!


4 posted on 02/14/2007 11:53:32 AM PST by STARWISE (They (Rats) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war-RichardMiniter, respected OBL author)
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The way I read the strategy is that the defense knows he's cooked and the judge might give them a better deal on grounds for appeal and a consequent delay in any sentencing.

The issue here is to stay out of prison.

There's always the outside chance of a post-term pardon from George W. You Know Who.


5 posted on 02/14/2007 11:55:24 AM PST by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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Fine that the judge makes stupid decisions....makes the appeal much easier to win....if the appeals judge is sane....big if, I guess.


6 posted on 02/14/2007 11:58:44 AM PST by fruitintheroom
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I guess this Judge never heard of the old saying: "Don't ASSUME anything. When you do, you make an ASS of U and ME! Why would a Judge made a ruling based on something he assumed would take place? It was always Libby's perogative to tesify or not to testify. It was also reported that V.P. Cheney would take the stand on behalf of Libby. That didn't happen either, so how did this numbnuts make the determination that Libby would definitely be taking the stand? What a moron this guy is. Let me guess...he's a Clinton appointee?


7 posted on 02/14/2007 11:59:06 AM PST by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway~~John Wayne)
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Wait a minute... Fitz said that he had an agreement with Libby (not on paper mind you), that if Libby wouldn't testify, he couldn't bring in CIPA evidence. That's a BS call on Fitz and lowdown... that wasn't the agreement.


11 posted on 02/14/2007 12:02:45 PM PST by AliVeritas (Stop Global Dhimming. Demand testicular fortitude from the hill. Call the crusade.)
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Uhh... Why in the world does the judge have an opinion one way or the other on who might or might not be called to testify?


12 posted on 02/14/2007 12:03:24 PM PST by Ramius ([sip])
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This is a ridiculous ruling, and it's only one of many by this hack of a judge.

He is not allowing Libby's defense to put on evidence that Libby was dealing with a number of very weighty, life and death type issues, UNLESS LIBBY GETS ON THE STAND AND TESTIFIES THAT THOSE THINGS WERE IMPORTANT!!!!!!

WHAT A BUFFOON!

17 posted on 02/14/2007 12:44:51 PM PST by San Jacinto
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Please see posts #16 and 19....for today's testimony...but I got it backwards.

Post #19 has the morning testimony...and #16 has this afternoon's.

I added it to your thread...because it is the most recent thread about this case...I hope you don't mind.


20 posted on 02/14/2007 12:50:21 PM PST by Txsleuth
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Another idiot judge trying to make a name for himself in the public's eye. Sheesh!


27 posted on 02/14/2007 1:15:05 PM PST by lilylangtree (Veni, Vidi, Vici)
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Fitz doesn't have a wife. Or kids.


33 posted on 02/14/2007 1:25:40 PM PST by fschmieg
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It appears the judge thinks he had a deal to deprive Libby of his 5th amendment rights. Isn't it against the law for the government to deprive one of the right to stay silent and not incriminate yourself. How can that be defended in the Supreme Court an arguement?


34 posted on 02/14/2007 1:28:30 PM PST by Texas Songwriter
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"Special Prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald agreed to tell jurors about the terrorist threats, war planning and other secret issues that Libby faced at the time. The prosecutor said that he agreed to do this on the condition that he could cross-examine Libby at some point on just how seriously he considered these threats."

Fitz was going to try to show that terrorism, war planning, and other top-secret matters are not things Libby would take seriously? Good luck wiith that.
36 posted on 02/14/2007 1:30:29 PM PST by Steve_Seattle
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"If that's what the Supreme Court is going to say (in any ruling on an appeal), they might as well say the government's not entitled to a fair trial and the defendant is..."

What an idiotic thing for a judge, of all people, to say! Shows he doesn't have even a basic understanding of American jurisprudence.

You're right when you say:

Reality Check: The Governmnet isn't ON TRIAL! Only the defendent is on trial, so of course only the defendent has trial rights. The Government has a responsibility to follow the law and behave ethically...

This tit-for-tat move to deny Libby his right to have relevant evidence admitted is unbelievably petty --on the part of both the judge and Fitzgerald.

These two are clearly in cahoots to railroad Libby.

45 posted on 02/14/2007 1:42:11 PM PST by shhrubbery! (Max Boot: Joe Wilson has sold more whoppers than Burger King)
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Mistrial.


46 posted on 02/14/2007 1:43:49 PM PST by ozzymandus
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I hope I'm wrong but I think Scooter's toast.


47 posted on 02/14/2007 1:44:29 PM PST by Riptides
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...Russert _ a law school graduate and former Senate counsel _ said he was unaware that grand jury witnesses are not allowed to have attorneys present.

Libby's attorneys found three old television clips that suggest Russert did know. In those clips, Russert describes the grand jury that was investigating members of the Clinton administration. In them, he notes that witnesses are not allowed to have attorneys in the room when they testify.

So, Russert is a liar. And yeah, that matters.
Even I - - no law schooler - - am aware that witnesses are not allowed lawyers with them when they testify before a grand jury.

50 posted on 02/14/2007 1:52:20 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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Sounds like Judge Walton is worried that he won't have much to say at the nexr COCKTAIL PARTY!!! He wanted FITZY to ask about how BIG A THREAT were these THREATS that are out there EVERY DAY!!! What idiots.


74 posted on 02/14/2007 2:39:10 PM PST by Suzy Quzy
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Does Fitzy have a WIFE??? I don't think so.


75 posted on 02/14/2007 2:39:45 PM PST by Suzy Quzy
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