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To: Rutles4Ever
Furthermore, as I've mentioned, executing murderers doesn't remove the danger of a prison guard being killed by a lesser criminal.

Someone serving life without parole in a system where life without parole is the severest punishment has no fear of receiving a harsher sentence, so he is not incentivized to not kill guards and fellow inmates.

Someone serving 5-10 for robbery and aggravated assault is incentivized not to kill prison guards.

I'd hate the worthiness of my life to be a matter of opinion.

I am not referring to matters of opinion. I am referring to the fact that certain inmates will kill a guard if they have half a chance to do so.

Comparing murderers who try to kill guards to Christians imprisoned for their faith is more than a little silly.

We're moving into Mumia Abu Jamal sympathizer territory in which all prisoners, by virtue of being prisoners, are unjustly incarcerated prisoners of conscience.

79 posted on 02/15/2007 7:24:26 AM PST by wideawake
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To: wideawake
Someone serving life without parole in a system where life without parole is the severest punishment has no fear of receiving a harsher sentence, so he is not incentivized to not kill guards and fellow inmates.

But the death penalty is supposed to be incentive not to kill in the first place, and people still murder. So "incentive" doesn't really amount to much, the way it appears to me. It still comes back to the question of whether the state should have the power to take lives.

Someone serving 5-10 for robbery and aggravated assault is incentivized not to kill prison guards.

Depends on the prison. Gangbangers typically don't care whether they stay or go once they're absorbed into prison culture where gangs thrive. Status is oftentimes more important that a parole hearing, and usually involves crimes against guards and other prisoners.

I am not referring to matters of opinion. I am referring to the fact that certain inmates will kill a guard if they have half a chance to do so.

Well now you're getting into predicting future crimes. If only "certain" murderers will kill prison guards, does that justify killing those that "probably won't"? How do we figure out which ones are "certain" to kill?

Comparing murderers who try to kill guards to Christians imprisoned for their faith is more than a little silly.

You've missed the point. It's not about comparing murderers to Christians. It's about handing the government a weapon that could one day used against you and me because, really, the only thing stopping governments from taking such measures IS public opinion. Why would it ever get to that point? Because we live in a culture of death. And if you can't see the eventual persecution of Roman Catholics in America who reject the culture of death and perversion, then you're not paying attention. If we champion death, it will one day be our own.

We're moving into Mumia Abu Jamal sympathizer territory in which all prisoners, by virtue of being prisoners, are unjustly incarcerated prisoners of conscience.

That's quite a leap. Who said anything about anyone being unjustly incarcerated? The question is whether human beings are unjustly put to death, not incarcerated. Life imprisonment without parole is hardly a declaration of innocence.

81 posted on 02/15/2007 7:50:44 AM PST by Rutles4Ever (Ubi Petrus, ibi ecclesia, et ubi ecclesia vita eterna)
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