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Why So Few Jews Vote for Republicans
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| Feb. 13, 2007
| JENNIFER RUBIN
Posted on 02/13/2007 10:00:19 PM PST by Mount Athos
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To: justiceseeker93
Hey, you don't have to be sorry about that piece of information. It good news, thanks.
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posted on
02/14/2007 3:51:18 PM PST
by
Eva
To: dervish
These Jewish Democrats are being nothing but hypocritical in cricizing Romney's appearance there.
As noted in my posts #s 172 and 200, Henry Ford himself was a Democrat.
That's one fact that today's Democrats will never let out publicly if they have their way, because it makes them look like the jerks that they are.
To: Ancesthntr
"Because Liberalism is a mental disorder, and Jews are as subject to infection as others. I say that as a Jew now very happily living in the free state of Texas, away from the gun-grabbing, regulation-loving tax ghouls in my (former) home state of NJ. Many of my relatives are infected, but some (like 2 of my uncles) have been cured."
There's something about NJ that I just don't get. It's like the people there can't get through the day without taking someone else's freedoms away. Whenever I have to drive across the Delaware I imagine a big sign reading, "YOU ARE LEAVING THE AMERICAN SECTOR."
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posted on
02/14/2007 3:54:58 PM PST
by
Windcatcher
(Earth to libs: MARXISM DOESN'T SELL HERE. Try somewhere else.)
To: Mount Athos; Alouette; SJackson
he dustup over the location of Mitt Romney's presidential announcement the Henry Ford Museum may be revealing. For Jews over the age of 40 or so, the name Ford means more than Mustangs and American innovation. Ford, of course, was a notorious anti-Semite, publisher of the International Jew (an update of the Protocols of Zion), and an apologist for Hitler who received the Grand Cross of the German Eagle from Hitler's Nazi government in July 1938. In many Jewish homes, owning a Ford was verboten.
Double Standard alert.
Did Jews care that Bill Clinton held an event their in 1989? I don't think so. They also didn't care that his mentor was the anti-Semite Fulbright!
The generation of Jews alive in the 1930's are dwindling. They have little power. (Heck much of their voter turnout is due to over people voting for them in nursing homes.) Those who pray at the altar of FDR obviously care not a wit about the Holocaust, otherwise, they would hold him accountable for not doing simple things like allowing refugees to be interned in Cuba or allowing the State Department to ensure that immigration quotas were not met.
The Tikkun Olam communists of that era are by definition anti-Semites. They just had the audacity to call McCarthy an anti-Semite, when Stalin was planning to kill of Soviet Jewry!
Current Jewish leadership is made up largely of red diaper babies and fellow travellers from baby boom. I seem to recall that their vehicles of choice were
VOLKSWAGENS. VW was founded by the Nazis to be the German People's Car for their Autobahn. Hitler had design input in the VW Bug. Ferdinand Porsche designed armored vehicles for the
Wermacht while Ford's facilities were building tank parts and armored cars for the US military.
I went to the last AIPAC regional dinner. John "my campaign is virtually run out of Dearbornistan" Edwards was toasted and Hillary "I supported the PLO in the 1980's" Clinton spoke. The people there drove Mercedes. Daimler Benz was an integral part of Hitler's war machine.
He was no cultural icon.
Henry Ford, the man who gave us the assembly line and living wage for factory workers was an icon of industry and culture.
Now he devloved into a conspiratorial lunatic. However, hi isolationist anti-Semitic rants and his importation of Arabs into America is right at home in the Democrat party of today.
Why doesn't Ms. Rubin comment about the thinly veiled Antisemitism of Jimmy Carter and Wesley "KLA member for Life" Clarke? How about the choice of a radical Imam to be a prayer leader at the last Democrat leadership conference?
This isn't commentary. It is perpetuation of a double standard and propaganda by the media.
Those Jews in the leftist shtetl of the New York Duranty Times won't get the truth. Those who read the NY Sun and NY Post may see a bit of it.
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posted on
02/14/2007 4:27:40 PM PST
by
rmlew
(It's WW4 and the Left wants to negotiate with Islamists who want to kill us , for their mutual ends)
To: Daveinyork
Call him out in Schul, during his homily.
It is not a prayer. I've done it in temples. It's fun.
If they are going to throw away religion, then there is no reason to treat the sermon as anything but a political rant. And a probably hypocritical one, from a guy who wants "separation of church and state!"
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posted on
02/14/2007 4:37:29 PM PST
by
rmlew
(It's WW4 and the Left wants to negotiate with Islamists who want to kill us , for their mutual ends)
To: Daveinyork
I think a Republican rabbi would have a little trouble getting hired in most American Jewish congregations.I thought that the idea was that politics and religion shouldn't mix. If a rabbi's political ideology is so crucial to his being hired, I would say that these Jewish leftists who would discriminate along such lines are big-time hypocrites.
To: Basheva
Regardless of exactly how many years back Jews can trace their ancestry in Europe, it is clear that Jews - when allowed to do so - have made disproportionate contributions to arts and sciences in Europe. They are part of the cultural fabric of Europe - and, by extension - Western civilization. Any leftist "multiculturalist" who rails against the prevalence of teaching "European culture" in schools via introducing students the works of "dead white men", is in fact a racist and an antisemite.
To: Jedi Master Pikachu
Of course, Christians are not supposed to force or pressure any human creature into becoming Christian--which can't be done, anyway.
Forced conversions should not be done. However, they most certainly have been done through threats of violence and kidnapping.
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posted on
02/14/2007 4:57:09 PM PST
by
rmlew
(It's WW4 and the Left wants to negotiate with Islamists who want to kill us , for their mutual ends)
To: justiceseeker93
These Jewish Democrats are being nothing but hypocritical ...Of course they are, they are political animals who would sell all they touch on the altar of the Democrat Party. They love their party more than they love our country and they hate President Bush more than they hate any of the enemies of Zion.
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posted on
02/14/2007 4:57:37 PM PST
by
af_vet_1981
(Waiting for Samson)
To: Polybius
Leftist patterns of Jewish voting in America comes from the socialism and utopianism of the 1880-1920 Great wave. Jews who came earlier assimilated and were largely from western Europe. Jews who came after World War two fled communism.
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posted on
02/14/2007 5:01:13 PM PST
by
rmlew
(It's WW4 and the Left wants to negotiate with Islamists who want to kill us , for their mutual ends)
To: kabar
There are 43 Jewish Congressmen in the 110th Congress. Only three are Reps, i.e., Coleman, Cantor, and Specter. The rest are Dems/Independent/Sociallist and are among the most liberal in Congress. 1. 1 Conservative, 1 Moderate, 1 RINO.
2. Only 43? I thought we'd be more that 10%
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posted on
02/14/2007 5:05:06 PM PST
by
rmlew
(It's WW4 and the Left wants to negotiate with Islamists who want to kill us , for their mutual ends)
To: justiceseeker93
You and I are certainly in agreement.
The Jew in Europe has often been depicted as an outsider - but this is not true. Because other groups swept in from the steppes, or over mountains, or sailed across bodies of water (such as the English Channel), there is no one country in Europe that can claim it is absolutely populated by the "original" population.
Most of those other groups who came from elsewhere to Europe - came AFTER the Jews were already in residence.
As for Jewish contributions to the fabric of the countries in which they lived - it has indeed been out of proportion to their numbers and often is an intrinsic part of the extant culture.
But what does make the Jew stand apart - is that he has never come as a conqueror. The intent was to live and hopefully prosper not to subjugate.
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posted on
02/14/2007 5:11:06 PM PST
by
Basheva
To: rmlew
Your post # 204 is superb!
I can only add that Henry Ford was indeed a Democrat in his own time (please see my posts #s 172 and 200), so it's quite appropriate that he would still be welcome in today's Democratic Party, the heirs to their tainted political legacy.
There is some truth to the statement that there was some squeamishness about owning Fords among American Jews (especially in Detroit) at one time, but that time has long passed, as the Ford heirs have clearly repudiated the patriarch's antisemitism.
To: Wallace T.
There is more to it. We have allowed the left to write its own history. History taught at "Conservative' and Reform Jewish schools is liberal propaganda.
Even in the United States, nationalist and Christian oriented groups in the period between the World Wars, like the Ku Klux Klan in the 1920s and the Silver Shirts and the Christian Front in the 1930s, and men strongly identified with those groups, like Henry Ford, Charles Coughlin, and Gerald L.K. Smith, blamed the Jews or Jewish influences for many of the problems of the country.
Althiough much of the isolationist literature of 1937 could be revised slightly and be published as current events today in leftist magazines.
he post-World War II conservative movement was largely free of these influences, and several of its leaders, such as Frank Meyer and Milton Friedman, were of Jewish background.
Milton Friedman was Jewish. Frank Meyer and Frank Chodorov, who co-fouding Fusionist Conservatism with Buckley, became Catholic largely due to Buckley's influence. Ralph De Toledano, the only Sephardic Jew of the group just passed away on February 3rd.
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posted on
02/14/2007 5:55:51 PM PST
by
rmlew
(It's WW4 and the Left wants to negotiate with Islamists who want to kill us , for their mutual ends)
To: Sam Cree
Vicomte13 is responding to grievence politics with those of her own. It's sad.
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posted on
02/14/2007 6:05:47 PM PST
by
rmlew
(It's WW4 and the Left wants to negotiate with Islamists who want to kill us , for their mutual ends)
To: Basheva
Jews voted Republican in every mayoral election in New York since 1989. This included two times where the Democrat candidates were Jewish.
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posted on
02/14/2007 6:10:37 PM PST
by
rmlew
(It's WW4 and the Left wants to negotiate with Islamists who want to kill us , for their mutual ends)
To: Daveinyork
FL -"Maybe it is the Jewish leaders that need to be educated and maybe even scolded for leading their people down the wrong political path, by Jews like you who know better. Just a thought" DIY -It's a good thought, but Jewish congregations are very independent, and hire and fire their own Rabbis. I think a Republican rabbi would have trouble getting hired in most American Jewish congregations.
So it is tradition then that continues to mold Jewish people to stay democrat or liberal thinkers. ?
To: rmlew
Did Jews care that Bill Clinton held an event their in 1989? I don't think so. They also didn't care that his mentor was the anti-Semite Fulbright! Hard to imagine, this is about Alan, not the Jews. Does anyone care, heck, we both know virtually no one knows Fords background in this regard.
Speaking for myself only, industrial brilliance doesn't offset moral failings of this magnitude. At the same time, he acknowledged his error. And it's not my place to judge either his conduct or his apology. Since neither are of any consequence any more.
I never got around to responding to your AIPAC post. Nothing to say to excuse political bias in what should be an apolitical organization.
I'm not sure Clark has anything to veil, Carter, the veil is gone. And no, the NYT doesn't think so.
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posted on
02/14/2007 6:39:18 PM PST
by
SJackson
(A vote is like a rifle, its usefulness depends upon the character of the user, T. Roosevelt)
To: justiceseeker93
These Jewish Democrats are being nothing but hypocritical in cricizing Romney's appearance there. As noted in my posts #s 172 and 200, Henry Ford himself was a Democrat. I don't think this entered the mind of anyone on the Romney campaign. However if you're suggesting they were aware of Ford's role in spreading antisemitism in America, but ignored it because they thought he was a Dem, a tenuous conclusion but irrelevant, then they deserve condemnation.
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posted on
02/14/2007 6:41:56 PM PST
by
SJackson
(A vote is like a rifle, its usefulness depends upon the character of the user, T. Roosevelt)
To: FrPR
I am a conservative Republican Jew and have been a Republican since I could vote. BTW, there are many of us on FR.
I, too, say that many on this thread shouldn't assume ALL Jews are political idiots.
BTW, the last election was lost because conservatives stayed home to teach the GOP a lesson. The only problem with that lesson was that the entire country now has to suffer.
There's enough blame to go around without blaming ALL Jews and labeling them Liberal.
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