[lormand]

"But war is never easy and almost never goes according to plan."

That statement is totally alien to liberals.

[avacado]

"It is unfortunate that the efforts of mankind to recover the freedom of which they have been so long deprived, will be accompanied with violence, with errors, and even with crimes. But while we weep over the means, we must pray for the end."

--Thomas Jefferson to Francois D'Ivernois, 1795