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Why the Media Doesn't Understand Rudy's Popularity
The Individualist ^ | 2.13.07 | Joe Rivett

Posted on 02/13/2007 10:41:04 AM PST by meg88

I don't often like to write articles that attack the media. I understand that the bottom line is ratings and I'm comfortable with that. I understand that certain stations have biases and I have no problem with that either. However, for some reason in almost every form of media, Rudy Giuliani is misunderstood.

The common quote from anyone is the media is that he is pro choice, anti gun, pro gay and has been divorced twice, so how the hell is he leading the Republican field? Well, there are two reasons.

The simple reason which I don't want to spend too much time on is name recognition. This early in the race before any ads or debates happen, people say they will vote for the person they know. For the Democrats it is Hillary and for the Republicans it is McCain and Giuliani. The media forgets that most Americans don't know who Joe Biden, Bill Richardson, Dennis Kucinich, Sam Brownback, Mike Huckabee, and Mitt Romney are. Even people that follow politics might not know who the hell Tom Vilsack is. So why would they support someone they don't know?

Back in 2003, a man named Howard Dean barely registered in the polls and Joe Lieberman was the frontrunner! So one reason why Rudy is leading is because he is America's mayor. We all know him from the Yankee games too. Plus, heyyyyyyyyy he's Italian, (In my family that is important).

Now for the complex reason why Rudy is leading, Republicans are not all that socially conservative.

The media is baffled that Republicans aren't upset that he got divorced twice. Look at this top ten list:

1. Nevada 2. Oklahoma 3. Arizona 4. Arkansas 5. Wyoming 6. Idaho 7. Tennessee 8. Florida 9. Alabama 10. Washington

What is this a list of? It is a list of the top ten states with the highest divorce rates in 2002. The first nine all voted for Bush in 2000 and 2004. So yes, while Republicans love heterosexual marriage, they understand that Rudy isn't exactly out of the mainstream for getting a divorce.

Another media mistake is to say he is anti-gun. This is lazy reporting. Basically, Rudy looks at gun control the way Howard Dean did as governor of Vermont. Dr. Dean had an A rating from the NRA as governor, so when the left got mad at him, he argued that Vermont didn't need gun control. Rudy's argument is that local municipalities should decide gun laws and you need more gun control in New York City than in Kansas! It is a conservative position to give power to local governments and out of the hands of the federal government which is what Giuliani is arguing for.

Another media mistake is to say Giuliani is pro gay. He's not pro or anti gay. He believes in some gay rights but not the right to get married. Most social conservatives believe this as well. Rudy's position is in line with Dick Cheney and do you hear social conservatives calling Cheney too liberal? Do you hear anyone calling Dick Cheney too liberal? To my knowledge, which is dubious at best, it was liberals that made a big deal over his gay daughter and his support for civil unions.

On the issue of abortion Giuliani is pro choice. So will this kill him? Not really. Giuliani is personally opposed to abortion but thinks that in certain cases that you shouldn't put a woman in jail for having an abortion. This is a mainstream position. Most Republicans are personally anti-abortion, but if their wife is raped or their twelve year old daughter gets pregnant, the position bends.

Back in college, I hung out with the strongly conservative kids during politics classes, only because it was more fun to argue with liberals. Anyway, we had a discussion on what Bush should do to fill the court seat and we were given three mock candidates. We decided to pick the moderately conservative Latino judge. Why? We wanted to win. We wanted our party to show minorities that we were friendly. Our professor then revealed to us that this mock candidate paid for his daughter's abortion, so maybe it would make sense to choose the staunch conservative judge. Nope, we wanted to win. Maybe Republicans and social conservatives do not want to see Hillary in the White House and know that Rudy is the only one that can bring victory.

The media is also failing to report how anti-tax/small-government Republican voters (not politicians) really are. For instance, our town supervisor would not spend 650 dollars to put Christmas lights on Main Street! That supervisor did not want to waste taxpayer money. (Plus, you would think a Republican would want to spend taxpayer money on celebrating Jesus). This is John McCain's largest liability. John McCain voted against Bush tax cuts twice and against the stupid estate tax. As mayor of NYC, Rudy cut taxes. If there is one issue that unites Republicans is that they hate paying taxes. Even liberal Republicans remain with the Party for this very reason.

The Christian Coalition, the super social conservative group is also very anti-tax. Extending the Bush tax cuts in 2010 is on their priority list of legislative agenda according to their website. How cutting taxes has to do with Jesus is beyond me but again, Republicans HATE taxes.

The failure of George Bush is also leading to Rudy's popularity. Republicans are kind of embarrassed right now. They realize that they don't have the brightest guy in the world right now in office. Republicans also realize that Rudy fixed a broken city and could fix George Bush's broken country.

Rudy is also being an individual without attacking social conservatives. Instead of calling Pat Roberson an agent of intolerance like McCain did, Rudy ignores him and says he likes John Roberts which is all they want to hear anyway as the Christian Coalition's priority is to have as many conservative judges as possible.

The media doesn't get it probably because they don't really talk to average Republican voters or aren't ones themselves. The media covers Pat Robertson more than they cover the average Joe Republican. Besides taxes, there is another thing that unties Republicans even more than social issues, it is a strong leader. The reason why Rudy is winning is that he is anti-tax, a strong leader, pro reducing the scope of the federal government and yes, because he is known by almost everyone


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To: DKNY

I'm sorry :-)

I have to automatically enter in paragraph breaks when I copy from Word (I just learned this today. LOL)

It is one of the better articles about Rudy, imo.


41 posted on 02/13/2007 11:20:53 AM PST by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they captured or killed.)
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To: ml/nj
BTW, I believe abortion is murder. Presidents do not ()or should not) have anything to do with murder laws either.

Obviously, the President does not operate in a vacuum. He does, however, make appointments to the various courts and Congress drafts laws that he either signs or vetoes. The purpose of government is to protect the rights of the individual against infringement by other parties. It's difficult to believe someone who is in favor of allowing a woman to kill her unborn child, who has committed no crime, is actually serious about protecting individual rights.
42 posted on 02/13/2007 11:20:59 AM PST by JamesP81 (Eph 6:12)
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To: BonnieJ

What's so interesting about that is that Newt Gingrich's Contract With America didn't include a single word about abortion, gun rights or gay marriage.

But now it's all the rage and all the serial spammers can talk about.


43 posted on 02/13/2007 11:21:58 AM PST by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they captured or killed.)
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To: meg88

Thanks for the posting, great article on Rudy and where he stands on those issues.


44 posted on 02/13/2007 11:22:00 AM PST by DKNY ("You may have to fight a battle more than once to win it." --Margaret Thatcher)
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To: meg88
Back in college, I hung out with the strongly conservative kids during politics classes, only because it was more fun to argue with liberals. Anyway, we had a discussion on what Bush should do to fill the court seat and we were given three mock candidates. We decided to pick the moderately conservative Latino judge. Why? We wanted to win. We wanted our party to show minorities that we were friendly. Our professor then revealed to us that this mock candidate paid for his daughter's abortion, so maybe it would make sense to choose the staunch conservative judge. Nope, we wanted to win. Maybe Republicans and social conservatives do not want to see Hillary in the White House and know that Rudy is the only one that can bring victory.

Oh, yeah, the way to win is to put Alberto Gonzales on the Supreme Court???? Sounds like the author is one of those birdbrains who thought Harriet Miers was a great legal mind. It's instructive to see what sort of folks support Rudy . . . but I think those of us who follow FreeRepublic already knew.

45 posted on 02/13/2007 11:22:24 AM PST by madprof98 ("moritur et ridet" - salvianus)
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP
is dominating the publics preferred choice for who is the most competitive candidate.

I see it as the media talking about him the most because he has the name recognition to hold the attention of an audience. If they started to talk about Congressman Smith of Greater Bugtussle, AK then the audience would change the channel.
46 posted on 02/13/2007 11:23:17 AM PST by P-40 (Al Qaeda was working in Iraq. They were just undocumented.)
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To: Prokopton
Sorry Rudy, the Second Amendment is not about hunting and it is not subject to local interpretation. It is a fundamental right enshrined in our Constitution. Get it?

The free speech clause in the First Amendment is also a fundenmental right, and yet the SCOTUS has ruled that the First Amendment is subject to local interpretation, at least when the issue is porn.

47 posted on 02/13/2007 11:23:22 AM PST by Labyrinthos
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To: AdamSelene235
Rudy understands the nature of the Islamic Swine. There is no other issue.

Well in that case he should be Secretary of Defense. (if were not disqualified for his disloyalty to the Constitution).

Maybe you don't understand the term "Commander in Chief".

The Secretary of Defense does not set our foreign policy. He only takes orders from the President.

48 posted on 02/13/2007 11:23:53 AM PST by Tokra (I think I'll retire to Bedlam.)
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To: BonnieJ
anti-gun to some

His comment on the Second Amendment and hunting said all I needed to know about him. Next!
49 posted on 02/13/2007 11:24:57 AM PST by P-40 (Al Qaeda was working in Iraq. They were just undocumented.)
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To: meg88
I understand that the bottom line (for the media) is ratings...

I agree somewhat with what the author is trying to say in the article, but take issue with the above statement.

The country is split roughly fifty-fifty, liberals and conservatives, I think no one would dispute, yet 90% of broadcast media and an even higher percentage of print media go for the liberal half of its potential market, day in and day out. In my hometown, the people will reliably vote 65% Republican each and every election, yet the hometown newspaper berates conservative ideology, and openly shills for Democrat candidates. It's about the IDEOLOGY, apparently.

50 posted on 02/13/2007 11:25:47 AM PST by wayoverontheright
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To: Peach
I like Rudy and your post and the article made excellent points. There are probably a modest percentage of conservatives that may not vote for Rudy (should he get the nomination), but Rudy will pick up huge numbers of independents and a number of moderate Democrat voters. I have talked to several Democratic friends of mine and most would vote for Rudy over Hillary. Of course most Southern Democrats are more moderate than in NY or California.
51 posted on 02/13/2007 11:25:50 AM PST by GeorgefromGeorgia
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To: meg88

I believe that Rudy will win hearts and minds in the primary debates. What follows is a simulated debate Q&A:

Liberal NPR (I know, redundant) debate moderator: "Mr. Giuliani, how would your administration deal with abuses at Guantanamo Bay?"

Rudy: "I'd triple the size of the prison at Gitmo to accommodate more terrorists for detention and questioning. I would ensure that every legal means of interrogation is employed nonstop to extract the information that we and our allies need to save lives in the war on terror. Back to your question--can you cite a real example of abuse that didn't originate with a terrorist sympathizer? Can you identify a dead or maimed terrorist who suffered those injuries at Gitmo? Can you find terrorists who are better fed or cared for?"


52 posted on 02/13/2007 11:26:21 AM PST by Buck W. (If you push something hard enough, it will fall over.)
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To: meg88
Another media mistake is to say he is anti-gun. This is lazy reporting. Basically, Rudy looks at gun control the way Howard Dean did as governor of Vermont. Dr. Dean had an A rating from the NRA as governor, so when the left got mad at him, he argued that Vermont didn't need gun control. Rudy's argument is that local municipalities should decide gun laws and you need more gun control in New York City than in Kansas! It is a conservative position to give power to local governments and out of the hands of the federal government which is what Giuliani is arguing for.

Then why, pray tell, did he attempt to use the courts to impose NYC's gun laws on other States? Using liberal, activist judges to re-write laws and the Constitution? Tsk, tsk... That's not very conservative, now is it.

53 posted on 02/13/2007 11:27:49 AM PST by Redcloak (The 2nd Amendment isn't about sporting goods.)
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To: areafiftyone
I give the author a BINGO! Very good.
54 posted on 02/13/2007 11:28:11 AM PST by defconw ( Mrs. Cibco in 74 days! Woo Hoo! WTG COLTS!)
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To: meg88
Another media mistake is to say Giuliani is pro gay. He's not pro or anti gay. He believes in some gay rights but not the right to get married. Most social conservatives believe this as well. Rudy's position is in line with Dick Cheney and do you hear social conservatives calling Cheney too liberal? Do you hear anyone calling Dick Cheney too liberal?

A very good point. I don't hear the "one-issue" (fag haters) Freepers trouncing Dick Cheney for his views which are EXACTLY the same as Rudy's.

I wonder why? I thought the old double standard was only a liberal ploy.

55 posted on 02/13/2007 11:28:28 AM PST by Tokra (I think I'll retire to Bedlam.)
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To: My2Cents

I'm a very strong Reagan Republican. He taught people to be individuals through rational thinking.

He also stressed using diplomacy amongst our enemies. It was his greatest and most effective tool that helped shape this World for two decades after he was first elected.

He wasn't perfect either. That was his favorite way of looking at himself and why he was so well liked, even by his enemies. He wasn't afraid to admit his weaknesses. And probably what made him so powerful overall.




56 posted on 02/13/2007 11:29:10 AM PST by PSYCHO-FREEP (" Judge not and thou shalt not be judged")
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To: Peach

In this old Meet the Press clip he's talking about other leaders, so it's not in the context of the current election. Nevertheless, he proudly speaks of having opposed even the meager immigration reforms that Clinton signed off on.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrI7PTDfl4c


57 posted on 02/13/2007 11:30:52 AM PST by william clark (DH4WH - Ecclesiastes 10:2)
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To: GeorgefromGeorgia
I have talked to several Democratic friends of mine and most would vote for Rudy over Hillary. Of course most Southern Democrats are more moderate than in NY or California.

I think you've hit on the primary reason why Democrats want to get rid of the Electoral College. We must not let that happen or big cities will picking our presidents.

58 posted on 02/13/2007 11:30:55 AM PST by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they captured or killed.)
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To: hsalaw
I totally disagree with the author's statements that Republicans are ashamed of Pres. Bush or that he's stupid.

It seems to me that Pres. Bush is gifted in his ability to relate to people in a face to face or even face to audience situation. He is also smart in the knowledge way.

Unfortunately, this is countered by his seeming complete failure to understand that there are those who do not want him to succeed and will do just about anything to prevent it. He acts like sweet Charlie Brown while the DBM and Dems are Lucy pulling the football out. You would think that after 7 years of this he would learn.

59 posted on 02/13/2007 11:31:59 AM PST by Freee-dame
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To: defconw

Yup me too!


60 posted on 02/13/2007 11:32:20 AM PST by areafiftyone (RUDY GIULIANI 2008 - STRENGTH AND LEADERSHIP)
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